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reval on 32 Ford Frame
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hb32 |
12-26-2014 @ 8:41 PM
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Bringing this up again. I also have a 1932 frame without the reveal, in this case a pickup. Has the right front and rear crossmembers, K member, 106" wheel base, etc. Page 17 of the book, 32 Ford Deuce by Tony Thacker, has a picture with description clearly showing a frame with no reveal. There are threads on both the HAMB and Ford Barn discussing the same topic as well as a reply from The Benson Ford Research Center indicating that that there were some frames built without the reveal stamped into them.
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10-28-2013 @ 8:06 PM
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Dan, I'm not so complex... I'm just as cheap as you are! That's a point (pickups) to research, I guess, 'cause I agree with your logic too. Alan Edit: There ya go, David smelled our brain farts!
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10-28-2013 @ 8:06 PM
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Actually, a potential buyer of a '32 commercial vehicle did not have the option to purchase it with a V-8 engine until late in the model year. It was first released for the station wagon two months after Job# 1 for V-8 passenger cars, but even later by several more months for the pickup and panel delivery.
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10-28-2013 @ 5:21 PM
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Alan: I wouldn't question you logic, but my gut feeling is that a 32 commercial (pickup) would have been most likely ordered with the "tried and true" 4 cylinder since most pickup buyers at that time in history were looking for cheap, basic tools, rather than today's buyers who drive pickups for many complex sociological reasons.
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10-28-2013 @ 4:29 PM
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Stroker, With rregard to the "early production" '32 4 bangers, you must remember that none were produced until some time after the V8's hit the streets. I'm sorry, I don't have the exact dates or numbers, but I do remember reading that Ford wanted to soft pedal the 4 cylinder, in favor of the V8. He even concealed the fact that the 4 banger was the stronger engine of the two. This means nothing, of course, to the question of the reveal, only that the time frame of the 4 cylinder vehicles reportedly started a bit later than the V8 vehicles.
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10-28-2013 @ 4:02 PM
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I had an early production 32-4 cylinder pickup which had the "reveal". I've never seen a 32 frame that didn't have it, but of course as previously stated it's possible that some pre-production frames may not have been so embossed. I believe it was a Edsel inspired styling touch for the 32 passenger car line rather than a structural element. The fact that it also appeared on pickups is simple economics, as they shared the passenger car frame, so it didn't make sense to build two stamping dies.
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10-28-2013 @ 9:54 AM
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I have personally seen a 32 frame that in fact had no reveal. It was the same in all respects except for the reveal; front frame horns, rear horns, crossmembers,etc. It was an original frame not a repro. Perhaps it was an early prototype. Just guessing but perhaps the reveal was added for strength, not appearance.
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01-28-2013 @ 6:44 PM
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Charlie, Here's a photo of the first '32 produced, #18-1, being hand stamped by Mr. Ford on March 10, 1932. Note the reveal on the frame. Dave
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01-28-2013 @ 2:10 PM
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I have a '32 4 door sedan with serial number *AB50035XX* (where XX are numbers I don't wish to show). It is hard to date the 4 cylinders by engine number due to the build up of inventory but it looks early. It has the reveals. Charlie Stephens
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sturgis 39 |
01-28-2013 @ 10:20 AM
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Thanks for the reply. i guy was trying to tell me that the first produced 32 Ford frames did not have the reveal above the running boards. Thanks again
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