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New member question - 40 Mercurey coupe
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v8taxman |
03-16-2010 @ 7:23 PM
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Tom and Stroker, Thank you both very very much for the information. I will certainly be in constant touch with ya'll I am certain about this restoration. One of the conditions that came with the car is that it stays as true to original as possible, a premise I agree with heartily. Tom, I would only hope to one day have mine in such a beautiful condition as yours. MY father in law was very meticulous about he cars he collected. He has restored a few others and has several in various states of condition. Fords, Packards, etc. all great cars in and of themselves but I really like the design and lines of the Merc. Most of the original chrome is on the car or with the car to be put back on, and rust free according to my brother in law. My main task right now is to find a place in Atlanta to keep it and be able to work on it. Unfortunately, I personally do not have the space to do so at present, so if any ideas or suggestions, I am open to them. I will definitely follow up on Waymon Brownlee and it is good toknow that there is a difference in the Ford and Merc parts for the 40. My intentions are to make it a driver as best as I can and then if the urge arises, go for a complete restoration. I just think a car such as this can be just as appreciated in use as it is in show. I will definitely look into the Early Ford V8 CLub as well, as it was my intention to document the process as best as I can. Thanks again to everyone for the encouraging words, and I hope to meet ya'll someday. It is my understanding that there is a national eve t in Charlotte in June and I am thinking about attending to get a true appreciation and gain some good insight into what I really have. This means I know have to take time off from the Harleys and refocus my efforts on 4 wheels instead of two..Not a bad choice to have to make! Thanks again. Dale
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Stroker |
03-16-2010 @ 4:18 PM
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Forgot to add: 1939 and 1940 Merc's were unique in that all the body parts are Merc-Only. Later 41-48's shared all but trim with Fords. In 1950, Mercury once again got their own pieces.
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Stroker |
03-16-2010 @ 4:00 PM
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V8taxman: I'm sorry I sort of got us off track on the window question. That debate really only applies to 32-36 Ford coupe's, and in contemporary nomenclature, 1947-early 1955 GMC and Chevy trucks. You have a very nice starting point for either a driver, or an award winning restoration. Your 40 is a rare and very stylish example of the effort that Ford was making in building an upscale car. As such, it has some unique styling elements in the side window treatment that weren't seen until the "hardtop" era of the fifties. I hope you will join the Early Ford V8 Club, and share the trials and tribulations that many of us have had the joy of experiencing when dealing with somewhat rare Ford products. Most of us would like to see you keep this car as original as possible. I have spent considerable time with my project "un-doing" changes that were made by my dad, brother and myself over the course of 72 years of ownership. In this age of digital photography, it is easy to record project progress, which is in-valuable when reassembly takes place. It is also very entertaining to your fellow Forum/Club members. document everything! Good Luck!
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Alan |
03-16-2010 @ 3:04 PM
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In Australia we always counted the number of window (3 window - 5 window), the front window as you said is the windsheild, technicaly a window but called a windshield.
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Stroker |
03-16-2010 @ 11:11 AM
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Jerry: I certainly don't doubt your research. Guess I've been counting the wrong windows for 60 years. Just go's to show you CAN teach an old dog. Dan
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jerry.grayson |
03-16-2010 @ 10:06 AM
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Stoker In Ford terminology, the description of coupes counted the windshield(1), door windows and if present the quarter windows. Hence, a 5 window coupe had one windshield, two door windows and two quarter windows. The rear windows did not count as all models had rear windows. A 3 window coupe had one windshield and two door windows. This method started when all models had only one piece of glass in the windshield and continued after the two piece windshield was introduced unchanged. Only coupes were described by counting windows.
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TomO |
03-16-2010 @ 9:05 AM
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Dale, you have a good restoration project or with less work you could make it a good driver. Your car looks to have all of the hard to find parts on it. Chrome plating will be expensive and you should take care where you send the grill, hood ornament and license light housing to be rechromed. These parts can be easily ruined by not properly filling in the pits in the grooves on the hood ornament and the license light housing. The grill is very hard to replace and a slip on the buffer can cause the plater to return a bunch of broken bars or gouged out bars. Other hard to find parts are the plastic parts on the dashboard. I had to make all of mine. I have had my car since the early 70's and have enjoyed driving it and restoring it twice. The first time is when I found out how little attention is paid to detail by the platers. I spent the next 25 years looking for NOS chrome pieces and reselling parts that platers did not do right. The car is now in the Dearborn Emeritus class.
Tom
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42wagon |
03-16-2010 @ 3:19 AM
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Dan If your going to count openings in the 41 to 48 wagons do you count the vent windows as separate and how about the upper tailgate? Since there is a solid wood divider in the center is it one opening or two? Wouldn't want to call my wagon a seven window if it really is a ten. Like you say more is better. I heartily agree us woodie folk have to stick together. Got to keep ahead of the termites. Ted
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trjford8 |
03-15-2010 @ 8:56 PM
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Dale ,you came to the right place. Our resident Mecury guru is TomO who posts here frequently. He has a Merc coupe like yours and will be a great help to you. If you just joined the V-8 Club welcome aboard. If you live in Atlanta you can also contact Waymon Brownlee who sells parts in your area and is also familiar with Mercurys. His company is Brownlee's Old Time Auto Parts and he adverises in the V-8 Times.
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Stroker |
03-15-2010 @ 4:27 PM
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Ted: If I count the windows on my 38 woodie, I come up with 11, counting the "sliders". If I only count the "openings", then I guess we both have 7-window Fords. Us woodie folk have to stick together. More is better! Dan
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