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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1940 convertible wiper motor ??? -- page: 1 2     Grant 02-20-2013 @ 5:57 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 538 Joined: Oct 2009 My friend.......an EFV8 member who doesn't use computers.......has several questions about getting a new or rebuilt wiper motor for his '40 cabriolet. Are we correct in believing that closed 1940 cars have a different wiper motor ? Would '39 and '40 cabriolets have the same wiper motor for open-cars-only ? Might the correct Trico number be SM227 ? Is there another manufacturer.....original or repro......of wiper motors that would be correct for a '40 cabriolet ? Does anyone know of a competent rebuilder of pre-war wiper motors ? There don't seem to be any such Services advertisements in the recent V8 Times issues. Assuming that a new old stock still-in-the-original-box wiper motor could be located, would it be dried up and useless other than as a core ? Thanks for your assistance. kubes40 02-20-2013 @ 6:16 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3423 Joined: Oct 2009 Without getting too technical I will tell you that yes, there were different vacuum wiper motors for 1940 Ford convertibles and closed cars. In reality the differences are so very minute, I would not worry about it. That being said, any motor you may find, whether advertised for convertibles or closed cars (1940) will bolt right in your car and function just fine. I am not aware of anyone that reproduces vacuum wiper motors. New old stock come available with some frequency on sites such as eBay. Expect to,pay about $75. I don't recall with 100% certainty the Trico number but thought it was 221. Perhaps someone with a Trico book can chime in to this regard. Are NOS motors good? Well, from my experience, yes. I have yet to do anything but oil them lightly for great performance. Well, maybe not exactly great, but the performance one can expect from a vacuum wiper motor. The only guy I would recommend to rebuild your motor is Mr. Ficken. He has been doing these motors for decades and is very good at his trade. Cost is about $100. he turns them around in a timely fashion. His website is: www.wiperman.com trjford8 02-20-2013 @ 6:32 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4232 Joined: Oct 2009 For rebuilt wipers I use Kent Jaquith. He's a long time V-8er and repaired wipers for years. He's done several for me. They are as good as new when they come back from him. He can be reached at 541-923-4319 or cell# 541-350-7426. In the warm weather he's in Oregon and in the cold weather he's in Arizona. I'm sure Ficken is fine, but I prefer Kent due to my past experience with him. deuce_roadster 02-20-2013 @ 6:54 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 284 Joined: Oct 2009 I have known Kent Jaquith since 1973 and can tell you that his work is very high quality and he is an honest person. While I don't know him personally, I think the same can be said for Mr. Ficken as he has also been doing this for a long time. I would say if you are on the East coast use Ficken, West coast, use Kent Jaquith, in the middle, flip a coin. TomO 02-21-2013 @ 7:54 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7264 Joined: Oct 2009 You can see a drawing of the 40 Ford wiper motor on page 637 of the Green Book. Here is a link to an online copy of the book. http://www.norgv8club.org/norg/index.php/headliner-newsletters-and-tech-tips/category/11-parts-diagrams As Mike said, any 1940 Ford car wiper motor will bolt in and hook up to work. Here is a link to Trico replacement motor numbers. You will probably have to go through it line by line as the search is unreliable. http://interchange.hapinc.com/trico/list.php?startLimit=500&limitPerPage=500&sortBy=&sortOrder=DESC Tom Grant 02-21-2013 @ 9:08 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 538 Joined: Oct 2009 You guys are great. Thanks very much. I will pass on the recommendations re Mr. Ficken and Mr. Jaquith. It would appear that the correct Trico data reads as follows: ID 93 MOTOR SS32-1 SERVICE REPLACEMENT SSM32-1 OE APPLICATION 40 Ford, Ford(T) If anyone has information to the contrary to that, please advise. supereal 02-21-2013 @ 12:22 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 Before I spent a lot of money on a vacuum wiper motor, I would consider an electric replacement. The vacuum system is weak, at best. Conbined with small blades, it leaves much to be desired. C&G has a bolt-in 6 volt wiper motor for the '40. Item 01A-17508-HD6, $165. You can see it on page 212 of their catalog. cgfordparts.com When in place, it can't be seen anyway, for the purists. ford38v8 02-21-2013 @ 12:40 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2780 Joined: Oct 2009 Bob, I suppose we're going to get into a discussion here about purists and make-do guys. I don't include Hot Rodders here, as we're only talking abiout functionality of the originals. The vaccuum wipers, when rebuilt, function as they did when new, meaning go up as hill, they stop, let off the gas, they go. This is what it's all about for me and many others. The hum and squawk in the radio is another one. If you want a modern car with all the modern conveniences, it's easier to go out and buy one in the first place. Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 2-21-13 @ 12:41 PM Stroker 02-21-2013 @ 1:45 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1460 Joined: Oct 2009 Alan: I'll side with you on that one. In the late 50's, I installed a rather pricey (for me) electric wiper motor in my 38 wagon. I had quite a struggle getting it to clear the radio speaker, but ultimately it worked, and worked very well given that with the 3-Strombergs and Harmon & Collins cam, I never had enough vacuum to wipe even going downhill. When I decided to put stuff back to as close to original as I could, I opted for a nice original Trico, and some re-pop wiper transmissions. It is part of the old car "mystique" at least for me. But no, I'm not giving up my hydraulic brakes! supereal 02-21-2013 @ 4:01 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 No quarrel from me, Alan and Dan. You both know me, and that I am not a purist. That's why I have a third stoplight, halogen headlights fed via a relay, and other changes to improve safety and, in some cases, convenience. As for wipers, I rebuilt my wiper motor years ago, and it is still vacuum. The few times I have been caught in the rain, I reexperienced the exasperation of having the wipers stall just when they were needed to see clearly. My cars are stock enough to produce the driving experience I remember, but I don' t sacrifice my safety, as I actually drive my old cars. And I cerrtainly enjoy the FM radio conversion, too, as well as a near perfect restoration of others.To me, that is the joy of having a useable result of years of hard work in saving a great car, and a piece of history.

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