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Gail Rodda

01-21-2013 @ 6:19 AM

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Mike (kube)Please contact me about the spark plug shields you should be able to now. Gail

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01-20-2013 @ 5:20 PM

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Gail, I have one set (new old stock) remaining. I'd send you a private message but it appears you do not allow that.
If interested, get hold of me please.

Mike (Kube)

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Gail Rodda

01-20-2013 @ 4:39 PM

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Thanks kubea40 for the picture these are the things I am looking for. Would you or any one have 8 of these for sale? Gail

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01-19-2013 @ 9:30 AM

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I do apologize for my initial response (in part) for recalling (incorrectly) these caps as being designed to reduce static. When I came upon that service letter it jarred what little memory I still possess.
I did take one cap out to a '40 I have with the proper (read: two rib H10) spark plugs and installed it.
How that cap kept water, etc. from causing problems is beyond me.
That may be just another reason these didn't sell well.

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01-19-2013 @ 8:45 AM

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The factory letter seems to imply that the caps were designed to keep moisture from shorting out the spark plugs, not radio noise. That shoots down my guess that they were supplied on radio equipped cars.

Gail, your friends father may be correct in that they came on his car when it was new, but that does not mean that they were standard equipment on all Ford, Mercury and Lincolns. They could have been installed by the dealer as an extra profit item. This was common practice then as it it is now.

I don't have my copies of the Branch Letters any more, but maybe someone has the one that shows the changes made during the year. If you were going to judge a car and deduct points for not having the caps, you would have to have more proof than your friend's father's memory. Because the chassis parts manual shows the caps as being available in 1941, you should not get any points deducted for having them installed.

I hope that this discussion has helped you out. I know that I learned something from it.

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01-19-2013 @ 4:38 AM

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Gail: Go back a page to Kubes40 first post he has attached a photo of the parts you question. click on the blue attachment and you can see the parts photo along with the Ford tag with the part number. This is were I got the part number from. As Kubes40 mentioned because the part number does not show up in the 41 parts book or the 1950 book does NOT mean they were not available. TomO says they are in the 46-48 parts book, that would mean they WERE available. Look at Kubes40 attachment of the Ford documentation.

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01-18-2013 @ 4:43 PM

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A good friend of mine's father bought a new 1941 ford tudor. He is very knowledgeable about fords. He remembers the covers being on the sparkplugs. They don't have anything to do with the wire. 40 coupe where did you find part number 11A 12425? TomO said they are listed in the Jan 1946 Chassis parts catalog for 41-46 engines. So they must have had them. Gail

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01-18-2013 @ 8:43 AM

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I thought I might add a bit to this discussion. Please take a look at a copy (I have attached) of a service letter dated Feb. 24, 1942.
These shields were not standard equipment.
I think TomO helps explain why they are scarce these days. I also think the scarcity may have to do with the low cost... there was little incentive for a service man to install them.

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01-18-2013 @ 7:59 AM

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Mike, I missed your photo when I was reading the post. I do remember seeing them on some cars just after WWII. I suspect that most of them were discarded when the plugs were changed.

Deuce, Like Mike, I did not think that you were challenging anything, just that you misread Gail's post.

You may feel free to challenge my knowledge anytime. I try to just comment on things that I know about, but some of my comments could very well be incorrect, because some of them have been incorrect in the past. I appreciate any correction to my posts as it increases the knowledge of everyone that reads this forum.

The caps do not show up in the May 1941 Chassis Parts catalog but do show up in the October 38-42 catalog and the Jan. 1946 catalog. They disappear in the 48 book.

I do not think that they were standard equipment, but might have been supplied on radio equipped cars and not as a separate accessory. This is just a guess on my part, based on the price in the catalog of 2 cents each and the fact that not many have been seen.

Tom

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01-18-2013 @ 6:37 AM

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Deuce, I never thought you were challenging anything. In fact, I think you realize I always appreciate your input. You have taught me a few things along the way!
I was not aware the shields were in the 42-44 book. Or, if I was, I had forgotten.
Regardless, I have never seen any other "shield" offered for '41 Fords.
I am of the firm belief, Gail is looking for an after-market part as others have suggested.
And, as just an after thought... it appears Gail is very concerned with "authentic". If that is true, anything but the shields I depicted would be incorrect as they were the only shield offered by Ford in 1941.
I only hope we answered Gail's concern to his satisfaction

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