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Posted By Discussion Topic: original paint match     40fordor 08-11-2012 @ 4:33 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 116 Joined: Oct 2009 What kind of modern paint will match well with 1940 black original Ford paint? My rear fender was repaired in the 60's with that era filler (probably bondo) and black lacquer paint. The filler has now badly deteriated and the paint is cracking and falling off. I have a quart of the old type lacquer black paint which matched very well and I am wondering if that is the best solution. Anyone's experience in this area would be welcome. Don 41SuperDeluxe 08-11-2012 @ 6:47 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Hi Don - I am not certain what type of modern paint will match the paint you have now, though a good paint man should be able to offer a close modern type paint. Though I can suggest having your car brought to a paint shop where they can do a process called "profitting" or color scanning. Do not simply use the factory color code - as your paint is faded from the original after all these years. This entails using a special devise to scan the surrounding areas to get the average color shade - then they use this data to determine the best paint mixture. A good paint man will blow in the paint so it is near undetectable to the surrounding area when finished. I had this done with a British sport car and you are hard pressed to locate the repaint area. Best, John This message was edited by 41SuperDeluxe on 8-11-12 @ 6:48 AM MICHV8 08-11-2012 @ 7:06 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 466 Joined: Jul 2010 I would take the fender off and take it down to metal. Very easy and fun to do. Investigate the repair area and consider filling it with lead (lead free solder) rather than 'bondo'. Also very easy and fun to do. Shoot it with epoxy primer (HVLP turbines are really nice and Fuji makes an excellent unit). Skim coat any imperfections with an all metal filler and shoot the fender with a high build lacquer primer. Sand. Finish with base color and optionally a clear coat. Wet sand. Buff. You now have a beautiful matching fender. supereal 08-11-2012 @ 10:30 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 When it came time paint my black '47, I was surprised to learn that "black isn't always just black", and that there are considerable differences between both shades and formulas. The job was complicated by the fact that someone, sometime, had given it a quicky coat of lacquer based paint. When the body work was complete, several coats of special primer/sealer were applied, followed by a black color layer, then a clear coat. The results are not only beautiful, but extremely durable. This work in not a "do it yourself" project unless you are an experienced body man. The material, alone, is very expensive, and the application requires skill and equipment. 41SuperDeluxe 08-11-2012 @ 1:45 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 53 Joined: May 2012 Superreal is spot on - paint shades etc do not match up easily - this is why even if you remove panels and strip to paint - it is best to get the area around the panel or spot needing paint to be profitted or color scanned - this is the best wat to ensure your new paint will blend in nicely. Of course you need a good paint man to blow in the paint to get a flawless spot repair. Good luck and let us know what you do. John TomO 08-12-2012 @ 9:54 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7275 Joined: Oct 2009 A single stage urethane paint will match the sheen of the original paint better than the base coat / clear coat and will hold up better than Henry's baked enamel. Acrylic lacquer has a tendency to crack, but if the fender is properly repaired and an epoxy glazing is used, you could get many years of service from it. You may have a problem finding someone to spray the lacquer. Trying to match a black paint is very difficult, but if you have the whole fender painted, the eye will not detect a minor shade difference. If you are going to use a modern paint, I would have the fender stripped, and straightened before the repaint. Any large buildup of filler, including lead will eventually show signs of deterioration. The lacquer paint or filler may not be compatible with the solvents in today's paints and it may lift off after a couple of months or years. Tom jal9846 08-13-2012 @ 11:23 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 53 Joined: Oct 2009 I agree, best solution is to have the panel stripped completely, repaired, and re-painted with single stage acrylic urethane. Color match can be done at any paint supply shop, but generally early Fords match very closely to PPG DCC 9300. Wet sanded and buffed, the PPG DCC matches almost spot on to a hand rubbed lacquer finish.

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