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Posted By Discussion Topic: "surviver" cars     BERTHA 03-05-2012 @ 12:46 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 129 Joined: Nov 2009 I can vouch for the interest a Rouge entry generates at a EF V/8 meet. "Bertha" had a steady stream of visitors when we entered our first ENM. We have never been at a show we enjoyed more. The folks are great and I learned things about our 53 that I never knew, even though it's been in the family since new!! Like the headlight rings and fender skirts were not original and that it was built right here in Buffalo!!! Get to a Club Show, you won't regret it. Bob "it's only original once"" trjford8 03-03-2012 @ 8:17 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4215 Joined: Oct 2009 Don, I note that you said you have made some minor changes to your car , but it is still 90% in the the three rouge classes. It might be helpful if you gave us those changes. Perhaps you have made changes that fit into the maintenance or safety areas that will not affect the potential rouge status of your car. Just recently they have approved some rewiring of a rouge car if the old wiring was a safety hazard. You may be closer to a rouge car than you think. TomO 03-03-2012 @ 8:05 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7253 Joined: Oct 2009 Don, you can consider the Touring classes as popularity classes. Registered members of the meet vote on which car they would mike to tour in. A lot of the members would like to tour in a car like the one that you describe. Bring you car to a National Meet and enjoy the Meet. You can have a lot of fun if you do not worry about getting a trophy. Most meets have a driving tour, where you get to see interesting places and collections as well as hear and see the V-8's perform as they were designed to. You will also have some members come up and ask you about your car and if they can examine some of the original details. Tom ford38v8 03-02-2012 @ 3:05 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2762 Joined: Oct 2009 Don, Rouge is a class of its own, as is Touring. No judging on the Touring Class, only popular vote from fellow registrants. I've seen Rouge Medallion cars as well as Dearborn Medallion cars entered in the Touring Class. If a car is eligible for entry in multiple Classes, it becomes a matter of personal choice. Alan 40fordor 03-02-2012 @ 1:19 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 116 Joined: Oct 2009 nelsb01, Obivously I did not make my self clear. Rouge cars are wonderfull and should be recognized for the gems they are, warts and all. I was talking about cars that have had minor changes that prevent them from being Rouge cars but are probably still close to 90% original in each of the three Rouge catigories. Don nelsb01 03-02-2012 @ 12:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 982 Joined: Oct 2009 I would suggest you read the Judging Rules in any of the recent Early Ford V-8 Club National Rosters. Also, you can read more right here on this webpage, by going to the home page, and clicking on Forms from the left column. There you will find actual judging forms and you can read those to get a better feel form Concourse vehicles. The Rouge Class is like you say, for those survivor vehicles where they are still in running conditon from the day they were purchased. Rouge vehicles are preservation vehicles where condition doesn't count, so the scratches in the paint, the water stains on the door panels do not distract from the vehicle. Like someone once pointed out, if every old car was restored, would we really know which way that clip went on? And by preserving Rouge vehicles, we have a chance to find that out. Touring on the other hand is for people who enjoy the old Ford, but would rather have drivability vs authenticity. So, there is where you see the added items to make the vehicle more comfortable for 'touring'. As a owner of a Rouge vehicle, I agree with you. More people stop by to look at my vehicle because it is what they remember from their growing up. Again, reading the Judging Rules in the National Roster will help explain the difference between Concourse, Touring, and Rouge. Hope this puts some clarification into your rambling. 40fordor 03-02-2012 @ 8:05 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 116 Joined: Oct 2009 Upon reading the posts on tonyM's 1937 "surviver" I have a question about the club's judging divisions. Since I also like cars in nearly original condition (not quite Rouge) my question is are these cars actually in the Touring Division? If they are in Touring Division they are at a very high disadvantage for judging. Other cars in this division can be almost restored in all areas but not up to concours status. I have a 40 "surviver" that requires more care to keep it that way and not replace items that have deteriorated (don't look good) than a normal Touring Division car. Is it really worthwhile to keep "survivers" in their condition since Rouge cars are out there for the restorers to examine? It has been my experience that the more nearly original cars generate a lot of interest at the events I attend. I must admit I have never attended one of our club meets. Just some of my ramblings! Don

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