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46fordnut
01-25-2012 @ 4:10 PM
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i have a Windham clock in my 46 i have power but i want to ground it . it is 6 volt positive ground. where would i make a ground for testing?

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Old Henry
01-25-2012 @ 5:09 PM
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I'm not sure I understand your question but if you're asking where to hook a ground wire to the clock you can use any of the bolt heads on the back of the clock. Polarity doesn't matter. The clock is wound automatically by an electromaget that will energize either way.

If that wasn't your question ask again.

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ford38v8
01-25-2012 @ 5:10 PM
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Clocks are usually grounded to the hinge mount on the dash as the glove door itself is not a good ground.

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46fordnut
01-26-2012 @ 5:36 PM
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yes thats what i wanted to know. i only see the one wire with a fuse. so i guess that would be why the clock is not working.

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nelsb01
01-26-2012 @ 5:39 PM
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You can always bench test the clock before installing. A good 6 volt battery or battery charger will let you test things before installing.

Old Henry
01-27-2012 @ 8:33 AM
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Having "done what it takes" to get two of these clocks working for my '47 I think I can safely say that it's not likely a ground problem. The clock grounds through its body where it attaches to the dashboard. It's more likely a mechanical problem inside of the clock that takes some troubleshooting skills to figure out and even more to fix. They're tough and some are beyond repair. But, it's a satisfying challenge whether or not successful.

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supereal
01-27-2012 @ 10:03 AM
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A very good way to fix a car clock is to have the works replaced with a battery operated quartz movement. The face and hands remain original, and you don't have to worry about running the vehicle battery down during long inactive periods. You get the bonus of having a very accurate clock with no outward sign of the refit. There are several places that do this. We used Bob's Speedometer in Michigan.

46fordnut
01-28-2012 @ 3:47 PM
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kinda had a feeling it would be nothing simple. it lights up but not time is kept. the car had no bat for 18 years so i hoped it be just a ground.all the wires are ok. seems to be in the mech some where . taking to a watch guy for check up.

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Old Henry
01-28-2012 @ 7:39 PM
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When you say it lights up but no time is kept I'm wondering if you are trying to power the clock with the wire to the light. There are two separate circuits. The circuit that lights up the light is seperate from the circuit that powers the clock. Do you have those two seperate circuits on the back of your clock - one going to the light and a seperate one going into the middle of the clock? Be sure you are connecting your power to the middle one rather than the one to the light.

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deluxe40
01-28-2012 @ 7:46 PM
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I have had good luck with several old Ford clocks just by cleaning and oiling them. Before I got my hands on some genuine clock cleaner I was using brake cleaner which seemed to work just fine. At the recommendation of a clock-collector friend I use Mobil 1 to oil them. Just a drop on the face of each gear. As the gear turns the oil runs down to the pivot point and lubricates it. The way the '46 works is that points close when the spring winds down energizing a solenoid that rewinds the spring and opens the points. I got my '46 clock to run for three minutes at a time, but the spring wouldn't wind completely and allow the points to open. I was able to get several '50 clocks that work the same way to operate, but no luck on the '46. The most difficult part is removing the minute hand, but you can clean a clock without removing it if you are careful and make a mask to keep the brake cleaner off of the face.

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