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lvjones1939

01-15-2012 @ 6:25 PM

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Finally retired and back to playing with classic Fords after a long, long absence. On a 8BA block using packing seals at the front cover and the rear main, I need some advice. The packing pcs. are cut slightly longer than flush with their holders. Does the pan gasket cover the packing ends or do you cut the pan gasket ends to clear the packing? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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01-15-2012 @ 9:43 PM

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Soak the rope in hot engine oil. Install it into the slot, pinching it tighter as you go, the goal to shorten it rather than to stretch it. The ends should be trimmed over long to compress even more. Pan needs to be straightened where previous bolts have been installed too tight. Too tight breaks the seal between the bolts.

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01-16-2012 @ 5:01 AM

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Thanks for the advice Alan, I appreciate it. However my original question remains. The length of the pan gasket will allow it to extend to between the upper and lower packing ends (like making a sandwich of the gasket). Do you cut the pan gasket just short of the packing ends so the cut ends will mash together, or do you leave the gasket in and let the cut ends mash against the pan gasket?

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01-16-2012 @ 5:35 AM

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Install the cork gasket first. The packing butts against the cork.

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01-16-2012 @ 1:25 PM

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Don't shorten the ropes or the seal will leak. Tightening the timing cover and oil pan will force the rope into place if they have been soaked in oil for several days. It is a very good idea to put some sealer on the ends of the seal before installation to prevent leaks at the parting line. There is a modern lip style seal available for the front, if you prefer, as is one that is Kevlar coated. Be sure that the seal end of the crank pulley is smooth, and not badly worn. The primitive rope seals usually leak a bit, in any case, and a lot with synthetic oil.

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I don't know if the 8 cyl block is like the 4cyl block in this respect, but on the third attempt to fix a front seal leak it occurred to me to leave the timing gear cover bolts slightly loose, tighten the oil pan down and THEN tighten the bolts that hold the timing cover to the oil pan, then of course tighten the timing cover bolts. Third time was a "charm" as they say!

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01-16-2012 @ 6:46 PM

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Gentlemen I thank all of you for the helpful advice. I truly appreciate the Help. I believe I can handle it from here.

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01-17-2012 @ 8:07 AM

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Do not use silocone sealer,
if it evers gets in the oiling system, it could cause engine failure.
use NO 2 permatex only.
using a weather stripping glue to hold the gasket in place while you install the pan workd wells for me,
hope this helps 37RAGTOPMAN

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