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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 1935-36 pickup restoration book

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41-42fordadvisor
12-10-2011 @ 8:41 PM
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Concerning the current debate about the 1935-1936 pick-up book being canceled by the Early Ford V-8 Club Board of Directors. Why couldn't the book be expanded to cover all Ford trucks from 1935-1936. The expansion would cover sedan delivery, panel trucks and trucks over half ton. Adding these would attract a wider range of truck owners and also help to sell more of these books which in the end could help make profit for the Early Ford V-8 club. I don't have a 35-36 Ford pick-up and probably never will. But I too was looking forward to this book and would have bought the book. Just my two cents worth.

41-42fordadvisor
12-10-2011 @ 8:07 PM
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Concerning the current debate about the 1935-1936 pick-up book being canceled by the Early Ford V-8 club board of directors. Why couldn't the book be expanded to cover all Ford trucks from 1935-1936. This expansion would include sedan delivery, panel trucks and trucks over half ton. Adding these would attract a wider range of truck owners and also help to sell more of these books which in the end the profit would be a big boost for the Early Ford V-8 Club of America. I don't have a 35-36 Ford pick-up and probably never will. But I too was looking forward to this book and would have bought the book. Just my two cents worth.

TonyM
12-10-2011 @ 7:05 AM
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Quote -- trjford8: "As a personal opinion I think a 35-36 pickup book should go further and cover the 37-39 pickups also, as they have a lot of similiarities.

Here's a thought, why not publish the book on your own? You would need to clear the draft through Ford Motor Company and then find a publisher/printer.

You then need a way to market the book. If you were that close why not go for it? You would soon know whether it was a profitable venture or not." End Quote.



Response: I agree, the authors should continue the project anyways (perhaps expanding the project to a book covering all pre-war V-8 pickups) and try and get a book deal.

About Marketing and Book Deals: I have published books with real publishers, and I still have books in print that I get checks for. First: You need to tell the publisher who you are going to market the book to right up front. Most real publishing houses won't even give your book a sniff if you don't include marketing info in the initial book proposal. It is probably the most important part of your pitch.

First, a publisher needs to know why your book is worth publishing. If there is no other book like it currently existing on the market, then you must tell them why it should be published and who to market it to. If a book like yours does already exist, then you must tell the publisher why your book is far superior.

Marketing info must be solid or the publisher won't even consider your project. If a publisher comes to the conclusion that the book is not marketable, they won't publish it; it is that simple. If the material is too esoteric, then there won't be a big enough audience and it won't be published. I think that is the case here.

You would increase your chances of a book deal by making the book attractive to more enthusiasts, thus making it more marketable. Only a multi-year treatment (rather than just 35-36) could do this.

I say you should finish the project anyways. Maybe EFV8 will change their minds down the road. Or maybe you can get your own book deal with a real publishing house. Self publishing is not an option here (too expensive).

Good luck

TonyM
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This message was edited by TonyM on 12-10-11 @ 7:20 AM

36ford pick-up
12-03-2011 @ 3:56 PM
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New to the board. Would be interested in the book.
Purchased a 36 pick-up in Aug. /11
Latrobe,Pa.

Karl Goblinger

JM
12-02-2011 @ 7:43 AM
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Maybe some of the board members will comment here on their rational for stopping progress on this book. It would be nice to hear their side of this story. I'm really hoping this decision was not made solely on potential for dollar profit.

JM

1932BB
11-30-2011 @ 1:47 PM
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Please accept my apologies Alan. I did not intend to hit a nerve! Perhaps my example wasn't a good one. I realize that efforts such as yours with the Roster are voluntary and I have some appreciation of the difficulty of such a project as well of the feeling of "ownership" when it is completed. I have been pleasantly surprised at the civility on the EFV-8 forum, having experienced the flipside in other such clubs.

I wish my truck was a 18 93A! I'm sure not many of these trucks exist. In any event, I did not intent to derail this post with my complaint. The original post deserves much more attention. Happy trails!

TomO
11-30-2011 @ 8:14 AM
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Jerry,

That seems like a big hurdle to jump. Maybe Don Rogers can give you some ideas on how a supplement could work.

Tom

v8teditor
11-29-2011 @ 3:13 PM
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Thanks, Alan for the explanation. I was going to ask you the same question as I knew you had created the original LEGEND. I see your reasoning. It has been pointed out there are various codes for various model year trucks, but your listing made some sense out of it all. I'll probably use your table for Commercial vehicles and say it is "generic." At least that way members with Commercial vehicles can identify their V-8 in the roster to some degree.

jerry.grayson
11-29-2011 @ 1:57 PM
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Tom
Thanks for your suggestions on the 35-36 pickup book.
Adding the pickup stuff to the 35-36 passenger book when it is reprinted would about double the size of it.(almost)
I did not intend to suggest that the 49-51 Mercury book had anything to do with our book. I just wondered if the same rules applied to both books. That is; number of cars listed in the roster.

ford38v8
11-29-2011 @ 11:55 AM
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Gary, You hit a nerve with your complaint that your BB truck is not listed in the Legend. The Legend was devised as a composite code to enable the listing of Members vehicles in the Roster. Having changed and evolved over the years, the Ford code wouldn't work for our purposes, so a composite code was adopted, based on the 1939 Ford Codes.

Back in 1995, when I was a National Director, our V8 Times Editor Bob McCoppin posed the problem to the Directors of how to make the Legend more representative to the many vehicles in the Club. Being a novice Director, I was eager to please the ilustrious Greaspit Poet, and raised my hand. The ensuing five years was devoted to the project, and I did my best to include every model Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, and Commercial vehicle in the new Expanded Legend. Indeed, the Expanded Legend does accomplish the goal, but with some unavoidable overlap of codes: Some vehicles share a year or model code with another. Your truck is properly listed as an 18 93A. This is the best I could do, while working within the parameters set out by our Greasepit Poet. We did also want to identify the different engines, we tried it for a year in the Roster, and it was way too complicated to continue. We reasoned that if someone was interested in 1932 Flatbed Stake trucks, they could contact the owner directly and have a nice conversation about engine options.

Alan

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