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Posted By Discussion Topic: Steering Box -- page: 1 2     trjford8 11-15-2009 @ 8:36 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4214 Joined: Oct 2009 Steve, I refer people to diagrams so they can see the assembly process and for them to make sure they have all the parts shown in the diagram. Many times people purchase a project and being new to the game they may not know that they are missing some parts. The V-8 Club books may not be perfect, but you must realize that our books are done by volunteers and they are far superior to many books done by professionals. If it wasn't for our volunteers we would have no books. Charlie G 11-15-2009 @ 12:21 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 2 Joined: Oct 2009 I have had the same leak on my '34. JB Weld (epoxy) worked well in sealing the brass tube to the bottom plate. However it still leaked, and I found it leaking from the bolts that hold the bottom plate. Cleaning the bolts and threads in the steering box and coating them with Permatex cured the leak. wmsteed 11-13-2009 @ 8:55 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 613 Joined: Oct 2009 The problem of steering gear boxes leaking oil is as old as the cars to which they are attached. In years gone bye it was a standard practice in the auto service industry to simply fill the manual gear boxes with chassis lube... Then the customer did not complain about oil leaking out of the steering gears and the gears stayed lubricated. Several years ago I found that engine additives like STP and Motor Honey worked very well in steering gear boxes. It does not leak out and it does a very good job of lubricating the gears/shafts in the box. I don't think STP is still available, however Pep Boys and some of the other large part sellers have a similar product. I set the bottle out in the sun to warm it up, then I place a small funnel into the gear box opening and slowly add the fluid. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe 40 Coupe 11-13-2009 @ 4:55 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1675 Joined: Oct 2009 the tube in the bottom plate has to be silver soldered onto the plate. They usually crack at the attachment point and use a good sealant on the gasket between the plate and the housing. The repair plate and tube Brattons sells will not work because the tube is too large in diameter. We had good luck replacing the tube from one at the local hardware store. The new tube was also soldered into place. There is a cork seal on the sector shaft out of the sector housing. This can be replaced with a modern seal, but it means disassembly, otherwise make sure the cork is in place. TomO 11-12-2009 @ 4:57 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7252 Joined: Oct 2009 It probably would not make a difference in your steering box. Most of the oil stop leak products are designed to swell the seals. Tom pfrancis 11-11-2009 @ 4:49 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 27 Joined: Oct 2009 I too have an annoying leak after replacing all seals. I am wondering if a "stop leak" compound designed for the crankcase would help. It worked good for me in stopping a crankcase leak on my 35. pfrancis alanwoodieman 11-11-2009 @ 5:40 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 868 Joined: Oct 2009 as stated above the tube that is crimped to the end plate does leak, do as the info about epoxy says to do, I have also brazed mine in the past. I will assume that you used a neopreme shaft seal, if you used a leather one, these need to be soaked in oil before use also sometimes the shaft seal leaks because the shaft may have worn a groove where the seal sits, I have used two seals, my 40 boxes had room for them. I also found at the industrial drive store some thinner seals which enabled me to use two seals. 600 wt. oil is too thin for these boxes, the old SAE wt. scales are different than the new ones. I use a mixture of sythetic grease and 75-85 sythetic trans lube--comes out at the consistancy of ketchup--this mixture even made my box steer easier. 51f1 11-11-2009 @ 2:41 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 573 Joined: Oct 2009 If your steering box is like my '51 truck box, the tube at the bottom that the horn wire passes through leaks where it is crimped to the end plate. Remove the end plate. Thoroughly clean it with something like Purple Cleaner (strong detergent). Follow that with lacquer thinner or PRE to remove all of the oil Put a bead of epoxy around it on the inside where it is crimped to the plate. Quick setting epoxy will do. If your steering box is not like mine, disregard the above. Richard EdB 11-10-2009 @ 9:07 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 47 Joined: Nov 2009 My Model A steering box leaked as you describe. Brattons has a Steering Gear End Plate to address the leak at the bottom of the box [# 5280] and a Steering Sector 'O' Ring [#5330] for the Sector shaft. Maybe these can be adapted to your situation. G Tosel 11-10-2009 @ 7:41 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 92 Joined: Oct 2009 I am assuming that you replaced the shaft seal. Did you also replace the shaft sleeve or check the fit? If the fit of the shaft to the housing is not tight, the seal will not correct this problem and possibly leak as you have described. Check the leak between the plate and the housing for the tube to insure it is tight with a new gasket as well. Thanks. Gary Tosel This message was edited by G Tosel on 11-10-09 @ 7:41 PM

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