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joe b

12-20-2010 @ 7:18 AM

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Can anyone tell me what year this engine is from this number: R99-53407M
also is this a Ford or Mercury engine?

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12-20-2010 @ 5:13 PM

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That number does not fit the serial number of the Ford engines in the 1932-1953 years. Post a photo of the engine and someone will be able to give you a general idea of the year of the motor.

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12-20-2010 @ 5:25 PM

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Where are you finding that number? Casting? Stamping? Any idea of the approximate year? I assume it is a flathead V8 (correct?)?

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12-21-2010 @ 7:02 AM

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The number is stamped on top of the block,toward the front,left side between the intake manifold and the cylinder head. It is a flathead. I was told it is a 1947.
It is in a 1941 coupe.

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12-21-2010 @ 7:28 AM

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could be a remanufacturer ID number, are there/were there any other tags on the block?

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12-21-2010 @ 11:28 AM

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None that I could find. I had to take the car to the Ohio State Patrol for an inspection because the VIN had been wrong for probably 20 years. The inspector knew where to find numbers but this was the only place he could find also.

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12-21-2010 @ 12:57 PM

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The inspector should have looked on the top of the left side frame rail. You might want to find it before you ask him to look. The number also appears on the top of the transmission case but this number is usually not used since it is easy/common to replace transmissions.

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12-21-2010 @ 1:44 PM

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One of the main differences between a '41 and a '47 engine is the distributor. The '41 has the old style with the caps on either side, while the later, '46-'48, has the "pancake" type. In between is the '42 with the "crab" cap. Like the others, I don't recognize the numbers, but suspect it is an "authorized" rebuilder's code. For practical purposes, there wasn't much difference in Ford or Mercury engines until the adoption of the crankshaft with the four inch stroke. As for enlisting the authorities to find a number, it isn't a good idea as long as the title has been approved. Old Fords don't have a "VIN" number in the modern sense, only a prefix indicating the year of manufacture, and a serial number showing the place in the production sequence. Many frame numbers are missing or illegible and, as Charlie says, numbers on the engine or transmission are likely not original due to replacements over the many years. Some states didn't recognize those numbers, anyway, and assigned their own "VIN".

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12-21-2010 @ 2:55 PM

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The serial number or "VIN' will be on the left frame rail, between the firewall and the front frame cross member. It is usually close to the steering box mount.

Use a scr*per to clean the frame, sand paper may remove the light stamping. The number will start with * and end with an *. The number for a Ford V-8 will be 18 123456. The 1941 serial number would be in this range 18-5,896,295 to 18-6,769,035.

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12-21-2010 @ 4:18 PM

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What I meant was the ENGINE ID. He/we found the VIN on the frame as you mention. The reason I had to have it inspected was after owning and titling it in California and New Hampshire I moved to Ohio. Ohio requires that the inspector physically see the VIN. I scr*ped and wire brushed it off and discovered the number had been wrong for at least 20 years. This is why I had to have the OSP inspect it so I could get a title.
The other comments on the engine possibly being a factory rebuild is quite plausible. I understand Ford had an extensive program for dealer rebuild installations.
The distributor is the twin cap front mounted one.

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