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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Anti-Sulfation Battery Chargers

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supereal
09-04-2010 @ 9:44 AM
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The latest issue of the Hagerty Insurance news magazine carries word of a newly available thermoplastic "topper" for the Optima battery that resembles the original type and slips over the Optima. It is called a "tar topper" and sells for $27.50, according to the article. Their web site is www.tartopper.com, phone 602/866-7776

TomO
08-26-2010 @ 7:44 AM
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MG, IMHO the anti-sulfation battery chargers will not rejuvenate a battery and will not extend battery life more than the normal 5 year expectation of a well maintained battery. They may help a battery that is fairly new and has been neglected.

The humming and vibration that you hear from your charger is the transformer that drops the line voltage from 110V to 7V before it is rectified into DC voltage. Most chargers charge the battery with pulsed DC due to poor filtering in the rectifier circuit.

Tom

51f1
08-26-2010 @ 7:28 AM
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I'm always straying from the topic. Why stop now?

I have never felt the need for an Optima battery. I don't doubt that Optima batteries are superior at a higher price, but don't they just help mask problems in our old vehicles caused by lack of maintenance?

I have a conventional Interstate 6-volt lead-acid battery in my truck. It's larger than a size 1, a 2 something-or-other, but I don't know the exact size designation. I don't have any problems with it. I have it sitting on a Battery Mat and I use two of the felt washers on the posts under the clamps. The engine starts instantly under any conditions. There are no corrosion problems.

Richard

This message was edited by 51f1 on 8-26-10 @ 7:31 AM

MG
08-25-2010 @ 8:37 PM
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flyer,

You don't understand my post with respect to the height of the Optima 6V Redtop battery. Optima no longer manufactures a battery the same height - 7.813 inches - as a Group 2L battery which fits perfectly under the wooden cover in the floor of my '34. The current Optima 6V Redtop is 8.13 inches - too tall for this application. Again, I want to utilize my existing battery tray with the battery standing vertical - posts up. I will not modify my car in any way in order to accommodate a Optima battery.

But we stray from the original topic of my post which was "Anti-Sulfation Battery Chargers"

lightflyer1
08-25-2010 @ 6:27 PM
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Two will work fine. I'll even send you a dead one if you like. You aren't stuck with a wet one if you don't choose to be. Drove my '35 fordor tonight. Yesterday was 107 here in Austin. Much better today at 94 for a drive. Car started right up after sitting a month due to high temps in the area. Hard to be unhappy when everyone is waving and looking at you.

MG
08-25-2010 @ 11:36 AM
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Tom,

I don't want to modify my '34 just because Optima no longer makes a battery the same height as a Group 2L. So, unfortunately, I'm stuck with using a "wet" battery in this application.

tudorbilll
08-25-2010 @ 9:11 AM
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I have been useing two trickel chargers one for each car.I bought at walmart 4-5 yrs ago still have the same bats. why pay more?

TomO
08-25-2010 @ 8:00 AM
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MG, Optima has its own unique size and shape. In order to install one in the upright position in a pre-1940 car, you must make a new battery carrier.

If you are going to install it in the 2L case, you must remove the bottom of the battery case and then make a shelf deep enough for the Optima to fit while leaving the battery case sitting on the old carrier.

AS Supereal said, there is no way to prevent sulfation, but a fully charged battery on a battery tender will last longer than one that is allowed to self discharge over a period. You must keep a careful watch on the water level and only fill the battery with steam distilled water to ensure the maximum life of about 5 years from a standard battery.



Tom

37RAGTOPMAN
08-25-2010 @ 5:32 AM
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my take on the sulfation issue. if you drive your car and it has this problem , your charging system is set TO HIGH,and need to be ajusted and watched so it does not create that problem,boiling of battery acid,
I have used battery tenders with great results,ON A REGUALR AUTO ZONE 6 VOLT BATTERY
better then NO CHARGING,does keep the battery charged, but you should keep a eye on it,
and run the car every few weeks or months,
the worst this you can do is let it sit for 6 months that try starting it,
this is my 3 cents worth, 37RAGTOPMAN
an KEEP ON TRUCKIN,!!!!!!!!!

40guy
08-24-2010 @ 5:58 PM
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Sulfation is cause for concern only if the battery remains in a discharged state for an extended period of time. The plates can be damaged to the point the battery cannot be charged or will not hold a charge.

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