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woodiewagon46

12-14-2022 @ 9:52 AM

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As others have suggested I would also recommend SKF Speed Sleeves. They work great and eliminate the need for any machining. It's worth a look on the website. We had a gearbox that had a groove worn in the shaft and to remove the box was an all day job. Speed Seal's saved the day. The only thing we did a little different was to fill the groove with epoxy first, sanded it smooth and then installed the Speed Seal.

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12-13-2022 @ 7:16 AM

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Turning down the shaft just enough to get a smooth, straight surface and micro polishing it may be the best and least expensive solution.

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12-13-2022 @ 6:44 AM

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Well..... I've had a chance to dis assemble the differential and got a better look at the axle shafts. I made some measurements and this is what I found.

Axle 1 diameter = 1.136"
Seal groove dia = 1.120"

Axle 2 diameter = 1.132"
Seal groove dia = 1.127"

I also purchased some new axle seals. A little experimenting with seal, showed that a socket of diameter 1.075" was still snug in the seal. So I think that I'll just set up each shaft in the lathe and just cut the damaged area down until the groove is gone and make sure the area is polished so not to damage the new seal. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Mike

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12-09-2022 @ 9:40 AM

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I am redoing the axle. New bearings, ring & pinion etal. One axle looks OK, but the other has a noticeable groove in it where the seal worn into it. I have used repair sleeves on crankshafts where the dampener goes. Here again the seal wore a groove in the crank. It is amazing that soft rubber can wear into steel, but I've seen it many times. The gears on the ends of the shaft look good as do the diff gears. When I took the brake drums off I saw that the brake shoes were oil soaked, probably from bad seals. I'm not surprised that the seals are not changed much, in that the axle has to be disassembled to get them out and replaced. I looked at a number of sleeve places, but didn't see the size I needed, at least thought I needed. I sure look closer. It would be nice to use a sleeve. I'm in the middle of cleaning and assessing parts. Besides this old man doesn't like the cold, so progress is slow. Thanks, Mike

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12-09-2022 @ 8:02 AM

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I have used speedi-sleeves in many applications and they are great. You would need to accurately measure the diameter of the shaft in the sealing area, to determine if there is a sleeve the correct size. I don't know if the axle is machined a consistent diameter from the end of the tapered section to the sealing area, or is the seal area slightly larger in diameter. If a correct size sleeve is available, the next issue is the need for a length of tubing or pipe, with the correct inside diameter to drive the sleeve to the sealing location.

https://www.skf.com/ca/en/products/industrial-seals/power-transmission-seals/wear-sleeves/skf-speedi-sleeve

Mike_Van

12-08-2022 @ 7:19 PM

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Have you looked into SKF speedi sleeves? I used these on my axle and they seemed to work well. I was able to get some that fit just right. I don't recall if I had to touch up the axle a little though.

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12-08-2022 @ 3:44 PM

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is the gears on the end of axle OK ?
you would think they would be also worn if the axles are worn from the small seals
I assume have taken the the rear end out, does the rest of it look ok,
I would think a machine shop could restore the axles, by welding the groves, and maching them back to original
last resort would be to replace the axles, or replace with good used
maybe time to restore the rear axle assy, maybe going to 354 gears,
I think SOUTHSIDE OBSOLETE in MINN, might have new axles, its worth a try,
my 2 cents 37Ragtopman, Maine

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12-08-2022 @ 2:07 PM

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would it be possible to move the seal in or out the width of the seal, to where the axel isn;t worn, just a thought

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12-08-2022 @ 1:12 PM

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Maybe you can turn the O.D. of the shaft down to one inch diameter so the smaller sleeve will fit. Taking 1/32 " (approx. .o30") of an inch off of the diameter shouldn't reduce strength of the shaft significantly.

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12-08-2022 @ 9:44 AM

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Thanks for the reply. I have been doing a little more research. The axle shaft at the point of the seal is about 1 1/32" in diameter. So far I can only find sleeves of the diameter of 1 and 1 1/8 inch. I'm beginning to doubt that there is a sleeve of this dimension. So, I've been thinking of alternatives. I think I may try some heat shrink tubing. Just enough to cover the damage. It should shrink into the groove and provide a better surface for the seal to ride against. If the shrink tube is softer than the seal, the seal may wear into the tube, but that maybe OK and still seal. If the shrink tube is harder than the seal (more likely) the seal will work as it should. Once I get to the point of closing up the axle case I want to shrink some tube over the axle shaft and see how it looks. It has to be better than nothing at all. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, Mike

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