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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 85HP V-8 oil pressure

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GK1918
11-05-2022 @ 6:34 AM
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All I can say is for example a 2 stroke Detroit Diesel say a 6-71 the oil pressure only gets what it needs like a shocking 5 lbs at idle and if
all is healthy maybe 30 at speed. So my 46 59A pretty close to your
85 hp is 60lbs all day at speed and 35lbs hot idle. because I built it
correctly. But the 59A does have 80 lb pump land gauge.

alanwoodieman
11-04-2022 @ 6:03 PM
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run 20w50 oil, Kendall, Castrol, many others. do not run a straight wt oil engine does not get proper lube upon starting, especially cold weather--sort of like molasses on a cold morning!

JayChicago
11-04-2022 @ 9:01 AM
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"Maybe I'll attempt straight 40 or 50 wt oil at the next change - if I can find it."

Why not use modern multi-viscosity oil? What advantage is there to straight-weight oil?
I can only see a possible disadvantage: too heavy for good lubrication on start-up.

37RAGTOPMAN
11-04-2022 @ 7:49 AM
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Barny
tip,,
try TRACTOR SUPPLY for heavier oil,
they do have it for older tractors,
hope this helps 37Ragopman,Maine
Straight weight oil, non detergent oil has cling factor for start up,
was used for years,


This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 11-4-22 @ 2:01 PM

carcrazy
11-04-2022 @ 7:17 AM
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Be careful not to run too much oil pressure in a '40 Flathead! I had one rebuilt a few years ago and I let the machinist talk me into running a later, 80 PSI, flathead oil pump in the engine. Big mistake! With straight SAE 20 Detergent oil, this engine had a massive oil leak past the rear main bearing. As long as the engine was running oil would be continuously dripping out of this location. Driving down the highway this car with freshly rebuilt engine used a quart of oil every 200 miles and pegged the oil pressure gauge at the high side at all time while the engine was running, hot idle included.

Barney
11-04-2022 @ 4:35 AM
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Thank you very much to Jay, Alan, Mark, 40Coupe, RagTop and any others who may reply subsequently,

Y'all have placed my mind at ease, thank you. It makes sense to me that very little pressure is required - just enough to keep it moving. After all, we're not talking about super high-performance engines here. It's interesting to me that there's a significant difference in pressure from running cold and running warm. That tells me there's probably excessive clearances here and there. Maybe I'll attempt straight 40 or 50 wt oil at the next change - if I can find it.

I have had many small block Chevys apart, but never a flathead, so I can't picture the pump in my mind. It seems that a stronger relief spring would help. Isn't the pump a positive displacement type pump, ei. a gear pump? I guess it's very possible the gears in the pump are worn to the point of not being able to produce higher pressure.

In any case, I'm taking the attitude, "If it's not broken, don't fix it." The engine sounds great and healthy when running cold or warm. It doesn't 'complain' by making abnormal sounds. The oil does not smell 'burnt'.

Thanks again,
Barney





37RAGTOPMAN
11-03-2022 @ 12:14 PM
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85HP
IF you increase the pressure, does that reduce oil volume ?
I have a 80 lb pump and never change the sending unit or the pressure relief valve,
and have good pressure
its been 15 years using the 80 lb pump
my 2 cents 37Ragtopman

JayChicago
11-03-2022 @ 8:25 AM
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Some of my thoughts, for what it's worth:

Your pressure seems fine to me. Around 12 psi on the instrument panel gauge at hot idle is better than what most of us see at hot idle. Your engine doesn't need the oil pressurized any more than is necessary to achieve flow of the oil to all points. As long as there is some residual pressure you are OK.

The 2-3 psi you see on the mechanical gauge may or may not be accurate. Even high-quality gauges are not that accurate at the extreme ends of their measurement range. And many after market gauges are very inaccurate. And even if that is accurate, 2-3 psi at hot idle is not uncommon for our flatheads.

Fooling with the relief spring will do nothing for low pressure. As said above, that spring is only a hi pressure relief.

Don't need to try to find that .060 restrictor. It goes in the feed to an accessory oil filter to restrict flow and drop pressure thru the filter. If you don't have a filter, you don't have the restrictor.



marko39
11-03-2022 @ 6:05 AM
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The relief is there to open with excessive pressure and won’t help with low pressure. You should be able to find 20/50 oil which many use on engines with wear. ( myself included). Try it, nothing to loose.

40 Coupe
11-03-2022 @ 5:22 AM
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It is VERY common for early flat heads to have extremely low oil pressure after getting to running temperature. The engine will run a long time with the low idle oil pressure. Only a full rebuild will correct this. Usually a new oil pressure relief spring or washers will not help!

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