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Woodman

12-07-2021 @ 10:33 AM

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Hello V8ers. So I have a 1937 V85 engine, all stock , rebuilt 1600 miles ago in 2000. Used little each year. that will flood when starting then ,you know the drill, until it will fire. I know these are sensitive, have owned several. But this one is very touchy. when I got it I figured by the smell of the gas and outside look of the 97 it should be changed out. So I did, with the same results. Yes, I have freshened the gas. I crank it with the choke out for a few seconds and push in. It starts pretty good but is sluggish for a couple of minutes. After warming up it runs fine and strong. When it is around 40 degrees and I try starting it and it dies, I need to try restart several times and that is when it will flood. I have not changed the plugs but it is on the list. Stock 6 volt ignition. Any other suggestions?

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12-07-2021 @ 10:49 AM

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My 51 had plenty of starting issues, would have to crank it for 5 minutes before I could get anything and messing with the choke did cause flooding quite often, very touchy. What solved it for me was getting rid of the points and switched to pertronix, put in an electric fuel pump to prime the fuel to the mechanical pump, she starts almost instantly now even in the colder months.

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12-07-2021 @ 1:56 PM

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Be VERY careful adding an electric fuel pump when running a Stromberg 97 as float is easily bent. Better off priming manually and using auxiliary pump only after extended storage / lack of use.

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12-07-2021 @ 2:00 PM

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It sounds like you need your carburetor rebuilt by a Stromberg specialist. I am sure someone on her can recommend a good one. It probably needs more than just a kit.

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12-08-2021 @ 6:29 AM

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My dad had a new 1949 sedan. He told me how to use the choke for initial startups. He said- "Pull the choke all the way out, and when it starts, ease it back in slowly." I had a 1950 sedan several years (6) later, and that worked every time; even when it was 20 degrees out! Knowing when, and how, to use a choke properly is VERY IMPORTANT!!

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12-08-2021 @ 12:54 PM

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So the carburetor is a new rebuild and you can't leave the choke out until it starts. It will flood before it starts. It reacts more like a Model A than a V8.

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12-08-2021 @ 3:06 PM

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I did want to mention that in regards to my electric fuel pump, I only leave it on long enough to prime the fuel to the mechanical pump, and then shut it off with a manual switch under the dash. Its not on all the time while driving and in doing this the car consistently fires right up and also doesn't struggle initially to stay on when cold starting. Best of luck.

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12-09-2021 @ 5:53 AM

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You absolutely have to leave an electric fuel pump ON ALWAYS; if you don't it will block the fuel flow and the motor will die ! I left it off on my forty, and it started to die coming home; and then died as I pulled off the road! I wondered "what is going on! " Well, after about 5 minutes I cranked it up and made it home ; (about 2 miles.) I don't remember how I learned that it must be on always, or it WILL BLOCK THE FUEL FLOW, but I think Randy Rundle (deceased), told me about it. AFTER THAT INCIDENT, I always left it in the ON POSITION, and never ever had that problem again!! LIVE and LEARN

P.S. SOMETHING IS DRASTICLY WRONG IF YOU CAR FLOODS BEFORE IT STARTS!! TIMING MAYBE??? WEAK SPARK?? FLOAT LEVEL TOO HIGH??

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12-09-2021 @ 8:20 AM

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I repeat, your carburetor needs attention from a Stromberg carburetor specialist. It is not working correctly. Just because it was rebuilt, doesn't mean that it doesn't have problems. All rebuilders are not equal.

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12-09-2021 @ 8:24 AM

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did you remove the air cleaner to see if the carb is running over ?
it has either a dirty needle and seat or a bad float, or not adjusted correctly, or to much fuel pump pressure,
a good fuel pump has worked on these cars for the last 80 years, or more,
all you need tight fuel lines and a good flex line,
the flathead FORD V8 is a very easy starting engine, if started every few weeks, not sitting idle for long period of time,
does not need all that fancy ad ons,
why make a simple system difficult to diagnose when something does not work,
my 2 cents 37Ragtopman driving my 37 since 1981

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