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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Another Tire Question

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wmsteed
04-27-2021 @ 10:21 AM
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A lot of very good technical info on tire size contained in the many contributions to this topic, I will now add some real life experiences with oversize tires on OEM stock wheels.
During the '40's/'50's my father had many 1/2 ton pickups, Chevy and Ford. Dad would always buy the truck's with 650x 16 tires in lieu of the stock 600 x 16. On many occasions dad experienced failures to the rim, spitting at the bead with the oversize tires. I was with my father on at least two occasions when the rim split causing the tire to bulge out and the rim edge to hit the fender. Quite a mess.
After WWII ended Dad would upgrade the wheels to HD artillery style with the 650 tires and/or 700 x 15.
In the late '40's the manufactures started to use wider heavier rims, which minimized the rims cracking.

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe

Dream38v8
04-23-2021 @ 5:22 AM
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First I want to thank everyone's responses to my tire question. I decided to go with Diamondback radials. I am not sure as to the age of the Lester tires. I know the previous owner never bought tires. Hence these tires maybe dated back to 2002. I've had a chance to put less than 100 miles on the tires so far. What a great difference. It could be the fact that these tires are new compared to the Lester tires. The ride is smoother and straighter plus less movement is the steering wheel. Only one issue arose during installation. One wheel would not hold air and therefore radial tubes were added. BTW I decided to go with the original tire size of 16x6.

Ray

TomO
03-12-2021 @ 7:44 AM
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Ray, I hope you realize that the Diamond Back tires are radial tires. If you are going to get white wall tires, the process is to grind some of the rubber from the sidewall and then use a vulcanizing glue to attach the white wall.

If you want bias ply tires, there really isn't much difference in the tire brands made in the USA. Coker makes most of the bias ply tires sold in the USA. I have had my Firestone tires since 2012 and have not had any problems with them. Others have had problems and when Corky Coker ran the company, the problems were resolved quickly. I intend to buy another set next year.

Tom

Dream38v8
03-11-2021 @ 12:51 PM
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Steve, you raised an interesting question regarding clearing the fender. I'll go out an check the clearance on my 6x16 bias.

This was an enjoyable string regarding the difference in diameter between the 6 and 6.5x16 tires. No one discussed the pros and cons of the various tire brands (Lester, Diamondback (Auburn Deluxe or Federal Formoza), Coker and Universal). I was looking for some information on experiences with the various brands. Now currently leaning towards Diamondback Auburn Deluxe.

Ray

Steve Kennedy
03-10-2021 @ 10:08 AM
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Just watch your tire diameter and make sure whatever is on the front will clear the fenders. I know you said you are going with bias, but for everyone elses info, Coker's 6.50 x 16 radials do not clear the front fenders on a '36.

zeke3
03-10-2021 @ 6:28 AM
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The speedometer gear chart in the "Green Bible" page 634 calls out the same 19 tooth speedometer gear for both 6.00 x 16 and 6.50 x 16 4 ply tires used with the 3.78 rear axle ratio, so the difference in indicated speed between the two tire sizes must have been acceptable to Ford Engineering.

LarryK
03-10-2021 @ 5:03 AM
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I have Lester tires on my 1939 Deluxe Tudor. They have given good service (10,000 miles, 6.00-16 bias ply blackwall). Made in the USA.

Using the Ford Service Bulletin data provided by Alan on loaded rolling radius, the ratio is 1.016. The speedometer error would be only 1.6%. 60 mph on the 6.00-16 tires would read 59 mph if the tires were switched to 6.50-16.

Larry

sarahcecelia
03-08-2021 @ 6:05 PM
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That's not my opinion; That standard math; 18 more revolutions in a mile? That's NOTHING!! If you figure it out mathmaticly, that's approximately 63 feet more in one mile!!! (C x 18= ?) Most people don't even know what size 6.70-15 means. It means 6.70 hundedths of an inch of tread width, x 15 inch rim diameter. I've worked on cars professionally, and in my private life for 66 years, before a lot of people were thought of, or even born.

Regards, Steve Lee

Dream38v8
03-08-2021 @ 2:58 PM
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Great dialogue on 6.00 vs. 6.50. I'm going to go with the 6.50x16. Now to brand. Lester, Diamondback, Coker, etc. I would appreciate a recommendation as to brand. I am going with bias ply and wide whitewalls. I drive approx. 1000 miles a year and stay under 55mph. Hence my bias ply decision. The current tires could be 19 years old as the car had a frame off in 2002.

Thanks everyone!

Ray

kubes40
12-28-2020 @ 6:06 AM
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Alan, I can't say for certain as the 3 mph I'd observed is only a comparison of my speedometer to my wife's phone ap.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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