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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Engine serial number

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supereal
09-05-2020 @ 10:15 AM
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When I was a Ford mechanic many years ago, we installed lots of "Genuine Ford Rebuilt" engines. We were supposed to stamp the chassis number on the engine, but seldom did. Most numbers on the block were put on at the factory as production numbers, and have little useful information.

42wagon
09-04-2020 @ 2:39 PM
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One thing you didn't tell us.Are the A2223 numbers raised and part of the casting or are they stamped on it? If raised they are a foundry number indicating which pattern was used for the casting. If they are stamped they are most likely a rebuilder's number.

wmsteed
09-04-2020 @ 8:46 AM
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There were several Ford authorized re-builder's. Meyers-Welsh was one of the big ones. MW rebuild complete engines and most of the related sub-assemblies. I had a '41 Ford 2 dr sdn in 1951 that had a M-W engine in it,
When I bought my '36 coupe in September 1952 it had 51k and change on the odometer. The engine was a M-W with a nice colorful tag on the left head. The tag was not metal, it was a heavy paper like material. I don't remember there being any eng spec's associated with the tag.
The M-W was a very good engine, I had a valve job done in early '54.. ($35,00).. Pulled the 21 stud out in about April '54 in favor of a hopped up 59AB. Sold the 21 stud engine to a friend for $25., he put it in his work car, a '36 2dr hump back. the last I heard of the car/eng it was still running fine five years later.
Most of the rebuilt engines I have had experience with were not very well identified as to the bore, rods/mains, etc.
One must keep in mind, that in the so called Good Ole Days, rebuilt engines were only warranteed for 90 days and/or a max of 3,000. miles, which ever came first.

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe

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JayChicago
09-04-2020 @ 7:40 AM
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Speaking of that, I believe I read that Ford had a factory authorized rebuilding service available through the Ford dealerships. Am I right about that? And does anyone know if a Ford-rebuilt engine got marked somehow?

JayChicago
09-04-2020 @ 7:38 AM
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That unknown number on your engine could be a rebuilder’s job number. Would need the rebuilder’s paperwork to get any info out of that number.

jretter
09-03-2020 @ 8:04 PM
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Thanks for the info!

42wagon
08-29-2020 @ 2:47 PM
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Ford recognized the fact that during the life of a flathead Ford the engine was likely to need replacing. Therefore when the engine/transmission was assembled the sequential engine serial number was stamped on the top of the transmission housing. this number then became the car identification number when the engine/transmission was installed in car at an assembly plant. All engines were assembled at the Rouge engine plant and shipped to the various assembly plants.

Without the serial number the date the engine was assembled is unknown. A knowledgeable mechanic could probably confirm that it is an 8BA engine but that's about all he can tell you. The only thing that we can tell you is that it was assembled at the Rouge.

wmsteed
08-28-2020 @ 8:45 AM
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I think you will find that your quest to find out what the number you posted means ( A2223) will produce no information regarding the engines origins.
Ford did not use engine numbers on any EFV8 engines.

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe

jretter
08-23-2020 @ 5:10 PM
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I have what I believe to be an 8BA engine with the serial number A2223. What does this number tell me about the engine? For example: When it was made?, What the block actually is?, Where it was made?, etc.

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