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Posted By Discussion Topic: Business Coupe Part Two -- page: 1 2 3     1931 Flamingo 02-10-2020 @ 9:40 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 390 Joined: Nov 2019 My first 40 coupe back in 69 had the package tray, I just thought of it as a coupe. My latest has the jump seats and I've always thought those with the jump seats were opera coupes. Old habits are hard to change. Paul in CT kubes40 02-09-2020 @ 5:04 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3421 Joined: Oct 2009 My gosh Frank, as I approach you in age, I pray I don't give up on learning new things. And, when doing so, pass that knowledge on to others. Hey, just because someone has thought for many years that one plus one equals three, doesn't make it correct. Passing along misinformation does the next person attempting to learn an injustice. Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 2-9-20 @ 5:07 PM kirkstad 02-09-2020 @ 12:57 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 192 Joined: Jul 2017 I agree with TomO. Back in the 60's I had a 40 coupe with no back seat or jumps, I called it a business coupe. I call my 36 with no rumble seat, a business coupe. Now, when I'm on the V8 concourse I always try to use the correct terminology, because there is always someone who wants to let you and others know how knowledgeable they are. In my 35 plus years getting the V8 times, I may have seen a small handful of mistakes and many Jerry would catch and note on a later issue. When I think of my age, I'm 74 and the age of my ford ,84 I can think of a lot of less trivial things to worry about,like who is going to own and preserve my car for the years ahead no matter what it's called. Frank TomO 02-09-2020 @ 8:38 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7264 Joined: Oct 2009 Tony, thanks for the compliment on the article. You and Mike are some of the friends that I referred to in the article. It looks like our conversations have stirred up others to comment. I am glad to see them as this is good place to express opinions. I remember your "Hello" along with many others, when I was working on the car at the museum. Like I said in my article, I should have used the advice that I give and not fall into the trap of jumping to conclusions and replacing parts. If I had used my jumper cables to go directly from the battery to the starter, I would have known that it was either the battery or the starter. My voltmeter would have eliminated the battery as the problem. Of course it is much easier to have 20-20 hindsight, that to have 20-20 vision. Tom 46coupe 02-09-2020 @ 6:59 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 2015 Thanks Kens and Deluxe 40. My first car was a business coupe with the solid rear window. I thought that the two door sedan was exactly that, not a coupe, as a lot of ads state. Thanks to all the folks in this club for your help as now I have a 46 sedan coupe. I learned this the first year I was a member and knew I had a coupe, but didn't know which one until I read some comments on this forum. deluxe40 02-08-2020 @ 4:35 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 413 Joined: Oct 2009 46Coupe: Here is a page from the V-8 Album that shows the models under discussion. This page is for the '49 Deluxe series, but the other years and models are the same. The car with the vertical chrome strip in the back window is the Tudor Sedan. trjford8 02-08-2020 @ 8:25 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4232 Joined: Oct 2009 Interesting conversation, but I doubt that we are going to change people's mind on terminology. When I was a young guy reading car magazines and especially about Fords the most common terms on '40 Ford coupes were 'business coupe' and "opera coupe" They are still being used today. If 99% of the '40 owners (Kube's statistic) still use the terms I doubt we are going to change any minds. I own both types of '40 coupes and am always asked if I have a "business coupe" or "opera coupe". Like me it's terms they have heard all their lives. Do I bother to correct them? Nope, as I'm having too much fun talking about old Fords with my car friends. I do use the correct terms when talking with a person who is new to the hobby. Hopefully the "newbie" will retain the correct terms and educate others. The "newbies" may be the ones to get his corrected long after we have gone to V-8 Heaven, but then again maybe not. It's not something I worry about that's for sure. This message was edited by trjford8 on 2-8-20 @ 8:27 AM Kens 36 02-08-2020 @ 7:22 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 352 Joined: Oct 2009 The 1951 Fords had two coupe styles: Club Coupe and Business Coupe - the Sedan Coupe term was no longer used. The Club Coupe has a large swing-out rear window and the Business Coupe has a large fixed window. The Tudor Sedan had a roll down/up rear window. Ken 46coupe 02-08-2020 @ 4:55 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 273 Joined: Oct 2015 I just have a quick question. Regarding the 49-51 Fords, is the model that has 2 doors with a rear side window that has the vertical chrome strip, called a coupe or a 2 door sedan? My first car was a 51 coupe. Since it had a back seat, was it a sedan coupe or a business coupe? It had a long enough trunk. I've been confused about this for quite some time and the car ads don't help much when they call what I think as a 2 door sedan, a coupe. Thanks for straightening this out. TonyM 02-07-2020 @ 3:53 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 459 Joined: Sep 2010 Thanks TomO. Always a great respect for you and enjoy reading your posts. I really enjoyed the article about your car. I was there at the Ford Foundation when you were in front working on the Merc. . . . 78-730B

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