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BobWatts

06-26-2018 @ 3:42 PM

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My God are things easy when you know what you're doing!

The cap pried off instantly with my trusty Harbor Freight trim tool requiring very little pressure and yes as Tom pointed out it goes

sailing if you're not ready .

Thanks you so much for the picture and kind explanations !

What a great community , a man in Iowa a fellow Watts read my plight and actually called me shortly after my post explaining as well the

5 clips and their location etc so thank you Mr Watts as well!

Bob

Inherited my Dad's 29-Pick up,30-Coupe,34-Cabriolet,36-5 window and 40 Hot Rod.

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06-26-2018 @ 7:36 AM

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Good post, Jeff

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06-24-2018 @ 11:34 AM

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VT/JeffH,

Exactly; something about the economy of pictures compared to words.

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06-24-2018 @ 9:12 AM

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In this next, I've tried to draw a line between the hubcap and the wheel. Towards the tire is the wheel. Towards the center is the hubcap.

Applying your efforts to this zone will reveal the lug nuts.

Your next task, to service the brakes, will be removing the rear hubs. Seek the purpose-built tool for this job.

Shout-Out to the authors of the club's '35-36 book, for the illustrations. Available here for those that don't already have two or three copies. https://shop.efv8.org/collections/ford-books/products/1935-1936-ford-book-softbound

-VT/JeffH

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06-24-2018 @ 9:02 AM

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I'm going to try two photos to help.

The wheel has five clips, circled in red. These hold the hubcap to the wheel.

-VT/JeffH

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06-23-2018 @ 5:48 PM

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While all of the above are all well intentioned, they don't address your basic question which is how to remove the hub cap so that you can remove the wheel. If you remove the stainless cap with the V8 emblem on it it you will be sorely disappointed as you will not have gained access to the wheel lug nuts.

What you need to remove is not the stainless cap but the whole cap assembly which includes the painted area surrounding the stainless. It is a big cap and it is big for a reason which is that the wheel it is covering has a so-called 'wide-5' bolt (stud) pattern which is much wider than that of a modern car or any Ford except those from '36 through '39.

Those clips in your photo are intriguing and they are not original, but they have nothing to do with removing your wheel from its hub/brake drum.

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06-23-2018 @ 7:03 AM

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Those caps should be steel and prying them off with a plastic trim tool should not damage them. I would have a large sheet of thick cardboard by the wheel to catch the cap when it comes off, as sometimes they seem to have a mind of their own.

Bob Drake makes a hub cap removal tool that may give you more control.

Alan (ford38v8) uses a slide hammer that he made and may chime in on this topic. If not, send him a PM. It looks like a very good option.

Tom

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06-22-2018 @ 6:48 PM

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The cap looks like one for a spare tire cover. Maybe even a commercial vehicle.
If so, this cap has a steel liner inside which gives it a great deal of rigidity. It should snap closed and cover the locking mechanism.
The cap should also have 2 threaded bolts that it connects to a metal hinge so that it can pivot open.

Like MG said -- another photo could help.

06-22-2018 @ 1:58 PM

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I don't think they're original ( the clips). Show us a picture of the backside of the center cap....

Looks like you're trying to remove just the center (chrome) section of the hubcap to gain access to the lug nuts. You won't be able to get at the nuts without removing the hubcap in its entirety as seen in this picture >
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/350574658960-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

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06-22-2018 @ 11:27 AM

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I have read all I can find but haven't found mention of these 4 clips located at 12,3,6 and 9 o-clock that have something to do with holding the cap on. Are they original?
I can easily pry the cap up with a plastic trim tool and feeler gauges but it puts so much stress on the cap I'm afraid I will damage it if I continue and these caps don't seem to be available from the vendors.
I tried looking behind the spare but the spare of course has a lock preventing a look at the backside so that's a whole nother issue.
How to deal with these clips without scratching up the wheel has me stumped , should I have at it and expect the cap gives before it bends or ?
I have to get these wheels off to service the brakes and bearings.
Thanks for helping!

Inherited my Dad's 29-Pick up,30-Coupe,34-Cabriolet,36-5 window and 40 Hot Rod.

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