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36 to 35 engine swap
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Lobo |
01-20-2018 @ 3:35 PM
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What mechanical issues do I need to be aware of in replacing my 1935 flathead V-8 with a late 1936 flathead V-8. Ford Phaeton, Secondly is it a big deal for valuation of the car if numbers do not match? Lastly, was green an original color offered in the 1935Ford Phaeton?
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trjford8 |
01-20-2018 @ 5:40 PM
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It's a straight up swap. No known glitches that I am aware of. Ford never had matching numbers that were visible. The only numbers that matched were the frame number and the number on the transmission which was hidden by the transmission cover. There are no stamped numbers on the motor. It only has casting numbers.
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MG |
01-20-2018 @ 6:01 PM
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Check the water inlets/motor mounts. They might be different....
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01-20-2018 @ 7:03 PM
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The water pumps are on the heads and have nothing to do with motor mounts. As far as I know the only difference is in the internal bearings. I would love one for our 34 Fordor and our 35 Pickup. Should be all afternoon project. If it has insert bearings it adds value to your 35 Ford for anyone who intends to drive it a lot. Yes there was a green 35 Phaeton.
1934 Ford's since 1972
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3w2 |
01-20-2018 @ 7:13 PM
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With respect, no one has mentioned water pumps, just the combined water inlet/motor mount brackets, which are not the same on a stock '36 engine as those on a stock '35 engine. The point obviously being made is that the swap should include retaining the '35 versions.
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flatheadfan |
01-20-2018 @ 10:10 PM
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As mentioned the '35 and '36 mounts are slightly different due to the longer radiator on the '36. The '35 outlet is straight . The '36 outlet bends down. Tom
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Lobo |
01-21-2018 @ 8:33 AM
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Tom, what do I need to do with motor mount? Do I use the one on the 36 frame and put it on the 35? As far as water outlets do I need new parts? Sorry for my ignorance?
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flatheadfan |
01-21-2018 @ 8:51 AM
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No problem here. Just use the '36 engine as planned and pull off the '36 engine mount/water mounts and put on your '35 units . Everything will bolt up without a problem. The only potential problem are the outlets themselves. Too often they are badly pitted or eroded on the ends from decades of use and tend to leak. At this point you will need to do some build up work such as brazing . I doubt if you will find any NOS units floating around. They were gone years ago and no one that I am aware of is reproducing them. Tom
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Lobo |
01-21-2018 @ 8:59 AM
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Tom thanks so much for your response
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3w2 |
01-21-2018 @ 7:19 PM
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Lobo, With respect, reading between the lines above, it seems that it is not fully understood that the water inlets and motor mounts are one and the same component, one for each side at the bottom front of the cylinder block. They are not separate components and have nothing to do with the water pumps in the heads (where the circulating coolant exits the heads and cylinder block) except that the inlet opening is part of the cooling system and where the cooler water re-enters the cylinder block after circulating through the radiator.
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