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49 F-1 Steering Box Removal
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Stroker |
07-25-2012 @ 5:04 PM
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Rich: It's always nice to hear how a project comes out. I know my "drop it out the bottom" sounded like a lot of work, but that is the closest to replicating the factory method which involved dropping the cab "over the top". The key is to make sure the elevated chassis doesn't squash you like a bug. Obviously, you survived that, and we're grateful.
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07-25-2012 @ 7:27 AM
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Completed changing the steering box on the 49 F-1. Jacked it up, dropped the tie rod bar and it came out without issues. Thanks for all your input/suggestions on this venture to improve the steering. I now have a completely new front end. I must say the steering is much improved. Rich 49 F-1
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06-18-2012 @ 4:59 PM
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I never tried to take my steering column and gear in my '51 F-1 out through the cab because it was obvious that I couldn't do it. It was probably interference with the seat that made me think that. I did install it from above when I restored the truck, and there was no seat in the cab. In any event, I have had no problem removing the steering column from below by jacking up the front end and removing the driver's end of the tie rod. I recently helped a friend do the same thing on a '50 model F-1. If you want to remove the seat, you can remove it from above. It just seems easier to me to remove it from below. It's not easy getting the seat in and out. I just checked the repair manual, and it says to remove it from below. It doesn't mention removing the tie rod, but I can't get mine out without removing it.
Richard
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bonusbuilt1950 |
06-17-2012 @ 5:01 PM
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51F1, I will have to disagree about taking them out thru the cab. I've done it many times as I stated. The seat is out of the truck. I've never been able to get a truck high enough on a jack and get it out, let alone feel safe doing it that way. Believe me, I've tried to do it that way. It is a pain doing it as the box likes to point down at the sector shaft end, but by manipulating the pedal arms ( pads must be off ) I can get them out. To each his own way............
Barry 50 F-1
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Rich |
06-16-2012 @ 4:44 PM
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Rich, thanks for the info. From the discussion that we have had, I will try to jack the truck up as high as I safely can drop the tie rod bar, and hopefully will be able to pull out the shaff/box. If not, I will just have to try to go through the cab. Again, thanks to all who share their expertise.....I appreciate it. Rich 49 F-1
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Rich |
06-16-2012 @ 4:42 PM
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Rich, thanks for the info. From the discussion that we have had, I will try to jack the truck up as high as I safely can drop the tie rod bar, and hopefully will be able to pull out the shaff/box. If not, I will just have to try to go through the cab. Again, thanks to all who share their expertise.....I appreciate it. Rich 49 F-1
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51f1 |
06-16-2012 @ 8:28 AM
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I've done this twice, the last time within the last 2 or 3 months. You have to jack the front end up and remove the tie rod (it is in the way). Take the steering arm (sector) off, and remove the steering wheel. Take out the plates around the column at the floor board. Unplug the horn wire at the bottom of the column. Unbolt the column at the dash, and unbolt the steering box. Remove the box and column together from below. You cannot remove it into the cab.
Richard
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bonusbuilt1950 |
06-15-2012 @ 4:35 AM
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I'm no expert by any means. I've tried taking it out the bottom which probably works great because there's nothing in the way for it to drop out. I've jacked the truck as high as I could, but the shaft is just too long. I just find that it works best for me to come out the top. Only better way would be if the cab wasn't there!
Barry 50 F-1
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Rich |
06-14-2012 @ 6:11 PM
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Hello Barry, Thanks for the info for removing the steering box. As I stated earlier, it did seem like I would need to take it out the top side/through the cab. It just looked too busy under/around the frame/front end for me to get the box/steering shaft out. I have a rebuilt box to replace the orginal one and I sure hope this cuts the play out of the steering. All other parts on the front end are new with the exception of the steering box. Again, thanks. Rich 49 F-1
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Stroker |
06-14-2012 @ 8:45 AM
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I wouldn't want to take issue with Bonus-Built's experience. My personal experience was swapping-out a 32 pickup box with a 56 pickup box many years ago. I also replaced my 38 wagon box with a low mileage 38 assy. about the same time. In both cases, I had access to a pit, and the exhaust removed, so that was the direction I went. If one were to do it in reverse of the way "Henry Did It", you'd have the cab off, and the engine out. Have fun!
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