| myfordgirl | -- 06-30-2010 @ 7:16 PM |
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Hi, I am new to the sight. I am looking at a 1932 Model B pickup to restore/modernize for my wife. I found it in front of an antique store in Maine. It is up for a silent auction. Folks can bid and the owner will sell to the highest bidder at the end of August. It is in really rough shape. It has been sitting in a field since at least 1978 (probably much longer). The cab including doors, engine shroud, radiator shroud and fenders are severely rusted but I think salvageable. It has the original flathead 8 which is also severley rusted. Suspension is there but the tires and rims are rotted off. I would like to get this primarily for the tin. I have 2 primary questions. 1. Is this cab interchangeable with any other cabs? I would like to take this cab and mount it on a modern chassis and find a bed for it. I know form my chevy experennce that the cabs of many trucks are the same...1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton on some years are interchangeable. 2. How much do you think this is worth? I will have to place a bid and considering the geographic location and the economy I am thinking I might not have to bid too high. Any advice is greatly appreciated as I am new to Ford restorations. Thanks Rich
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| trjford8 | -- 06-30-2010 @ 7:44 PM |
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Rich, it's tough to give a value without seeing the truck or a few photos. If it's an auction people tend to get caught up in the "hype" and tend to pay too much. If it's rusty I would stay away from it. In today's world paint and body work is real expensive. If you are new to the old Ford world I would look around and get a feel for the value of old pickups. I would check the internet old car sites and look to see sale prices. With the current state of the economy there are some bargains out there and you may find one that is already done. It may be a little more money up front, but the cost of building one has become very expensive. If you find one already finished your wife can drive it now rather than wait 4-5 years for the finished product.
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| myfordgirl | -- 07-01-2010 @ 4:11 AM |
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TRJ I see your point. I am looking for a project though. I have just finished a 53 chevy 3600. I do all my own work including body work and paint. Believe it or not I find the hours of sanding therapeutic (good thing because I am a terrible painter) I may keep looking for something a little more whole as you say they are out there. However there is a certain sastisfaction I get from saving a rusted hulk from the crusher. I have been looking around at prices and have found the prices to be all over the place. I don't think thre will be too much frenzie over this truck it is in a sleepy little town in the middle of no where. I am not sure how many bids they will get. I will try to get some pics to post next week when I go back there. I look forward to cruising this site and learning from those who know. Thanks so much for the advise Rich
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| trjford8 | -- 07-01-2010 @ 7:45 AM |
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Rich, photos would be great. We will try to answer your questions and help you with whatever you decide to purchase. It's great that you want to save an old Ford.
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| CharlieStephens | -- 07-01-2010 @ 1:42 PM |
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Rich, I tried to send you a private message but your private messaging has been disabled. I am concerned from the wording in your post that you are very new to the Model B world and could use some serious help. I suggest you post some pictures or PM them directly to a couple of people for comments. The idea about using a different frame will give you many more problems than it will solve. What do you really hope to end up with in the end, a restoration or a street rod? I strongly suggest you build the car on paper and find what it will cost before you put any money into it. Charlie Stephens
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| myfordgirl | -- 07-02-2010 @ 4:53 AM |
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Charlie, I really appreciate the advice. I am going back there today. My restored 53 Chevy is in the parade and a show up there. I will post pics when I return and try to figure out how to enable PMs. I am looking for a challenge. I rebuilt my 53 from a rotted out hulk, actually patching fenders that most folks would have scr*pped. I do agree building it on paper is wise. I figured if I came here you guys could advise me on what I need to do that. What frames and cabs can be interchaged with some modifications, etc. In the mean time I have attached a link to my current work. Caution...it a Chevy...so don't be offended.;-) http://rides.webshots.com/album/577941078yrYJgb
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| 1932BB | -- 07-02-2010 @ 6:36 AM |
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If this truck has an original V8, Model 18 engine it is extremely rare as most '32 pickups were 4 cyl Model B's. The cabs, and all the sheet metal, was the same for the big trucks, Model BB. The '32 to '34 cabs tended to rust badly on the door bottoms and the bottom of the cab back panel both of which can be very time consuming and expensive to restore. Fenders are reproduced as are frames. If this truck spent many years outside, did it have a radiator cap? Does it have an air cleaner? If not, rain water may have gotten into the engine and made it into junk. I admire your willingness to tackle tough projects, and (hopefully) save another old Ford, but due to scarcity of parts for this model, perhaps you would be better off with something more common such as a Model A. Good luck!
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| myfordgirl | -- 07-05-2010 @ 7:37 PM |
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I have attached pictures as I promised. There are 2 trucks. I have poste mostly pics of the larger 8 cylinder. I am not sure if the smaller 4 cylinder is salavagable. Brace yourself...these trucks are rough...
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| myfordgirl | -- 07-05-2010 @ 7:39 PM |
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I don't know how to post more than 1 pic at a time. Sorry.
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| 3w2 | -- 07-05-2010 @ 10:19 PM |
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Despite what the sign in the window states, this is not a '32 Ford truck, but rather a '34. You're right, it is really rough, perhaps beyond saving. Dave
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| CharlieStephens | -- 07-06-2010 @ 12:44 PM |
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Rich, The common admonition is "don't pay too much for it". I would like to say "don't pay too little for it". Looking at your pictures I would find another vehicle and pay a little more, you will be better off in the long run. Charlie Stephens
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| myfordgirl | -- 07-06-2010 @ 4:22 PM |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I really would like a new project (even though I have a few going already) I think I will look longer and not work harder than I should. I really like the idea of a kit car with no rust to deal with Rich
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| Bart | -- 08-06-2010 @ 1:38 PM |
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I need some help with a car as well. I have a 1936 Ford Tudor Deluxe that I would like to sell. I just don't know a good price to ask. It was restored by my father and is a three time Deerborn winner. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
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| CharlieStephens | -- 08-06-2010 @ 2:15 PM |
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Bart, First I suggest you start a new thread with a title that will attract people to your specific question. Otherwise you are hidden at the bottom of an old thread that most people have already read. I posted the same question on HAMB. You might want to check out the responses. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=494859&highlight=stephens Compare the VIN (or serial number) on the car with the paperwork for the car. You will want to know where this number is located when people come to see the car. A mismatch can kill a sale plus will drag everything out if it is not started early. Get many good digital photos. You will need to send them to people asking questions. Show exterior all views, engine compartment, upholstery, and as many other as need to show car completely. Include defects and problem areas. If we are talking about selling a high dollar car (which I define as over $20K based on values shown in “The Old Cars Price Guide” and yours probably qualifies but I didn’t look it up) spend the money and hire a professional appraiser. Talk to the members of local clubs to find an appraiser. Get a professional appraiser and not someone with an interest in buying the car. As a check bounce this number off of some members of a local club. Check for sale ads for similar cars. Remember that low mileage original cars carry a premium. At this time you should have an idea about what you can sell the car for. Probably the best place for national advertising is Hemming’s Motor news (available at Barnes & Noble). Remember when advertising that it may not be worth the money to get national exposure since most cars will sell within a couple of hundred miles. Go to the national club web sites and find the local clubs. The national web site for early V8 Fords is where you are currently posting (earlyfordv8.org). Start by sending an ad (through the people recommended above to avoid having to pay for the ad) to the national club for inclusion in their monthly magazine and then write a letter, call and/or attend local club meetings with pictures. Ask if they would place an ad in their monthly newsletter. If the club is smart they will do this at no cost as a service to their members. If they want more than a token amount for the ad just skip their club and tell them why. Unless you car is very unusual it will probably sell to someone within a couple of hundred miles. Contact all of the clubs within this radius. Remember if you contact the clubs by email to include photos with your email as there is a good chance that someone will forward you email to a general distribution list for the club. You should plan on a couple of months for information to work its way through the system. Newsletters have cut off dates and your request may go through a couple of people before it finally gets to the editor of the newsletter. Advertise the cars with a best offer at the end of the two month period (as determined by the longest publishing time) and reserve the right to reject any or all offers. Stagger submitting your ads so they are all published about the same time. Avoid the temptation to sell to the first offer. If things don’t sell, and it is possible, wait a year and try again. There are several web sites that have classified sections (be sure your vehicle ends up in the right section). Ads are usually free but donations cheerfully accepted. Place these ads within a couple of weeks before the closing dates in the club newsletters. These sites are: Fordbarn.com (separate sections for T, A, V8) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/ (T, A, V8 plus other makes) Good Luck, Charlie Stephens
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