Topic: headliner installation


ross49    -- 08-04-2016 @ 8:02 AM
  I am installing a headliner in my 47 Tudor sedan. Unfortunately the original headliner was not in the car to begin with so I don't have a good reference to look at. I have the bows for the headliner but my concern is the attachment to the sides, front and rear.
There are no tacking strips anywhere. Should there be and if so where? There are some V-shaped tabs over the doors. I am assuming the headliner is pushed under these tabs? There are no tabs over the rear side windows. Is the headliner tacked/glued in those areas? Does the rear window need to be removed to install the headliner? Does it go under the gasket or attached to the metal rim around the window? If tacks are used can these be driven through the metal or is it necessary to drill a small hole first? Sorry for all the questions. The sheet from Mac's was not very detailed.


trjford8    -- 08-04-2016 @ 9:01 AM
  I'm not sure about the 42-48 cars, but the 40's have a tack strip just above the windshield and is hidden by the garnish molding. Above your doors there should be metal pieces that have what appear to be "shark teeth" on them. The teeth point towards the body and your headliner tucks underneath these teeth. There should be tack strips at the back of the door jamb. The strips fit into a recessed area and are held on by metal tabs. Those tabs, once bent over have a tendency to break, so the new strips may need to be fastened with pop rivets. Many of the V-8 parts suppliers sell the new vinyl tack strip material.
Make sure to replace the tack strips as the old strip material has deteriorated by now and will not hold the tacks or staples. Your windlace tacks or staples to this strip at the back of the door. When installing the windlace from the cowl panel and over the door I use pop rivets to hold it in place. There's no chance of it coming loose.
When you get to the side windows you pull the garnish molding and glue the headliner into the recess of the window opening. As you pull the headliner into the opening you may have to put some small cuts in the material(careful not to cut too far) to relieve the stress on the material and avoid wrinkles. At the front of the window , between the window and door jamb, there is a cloth covered cardboard panel that trims off the upper headliner and the gap between the window and door. This panel is brad nailed to the tack strip and the material on the opposite side glues into the window opening. The head of the brad nail is covered by using a needle to pull up the material on the panel and over the head of the nail.
The rear window needs to be out of the car to complete to process. The material glues to the opening and the rubber gasket/glass then holds the headliner in place. The headliner pulls down to the package shelf and there may need to be a tack strip there to anchor the bottom of it. The package shelf panel covers this area.
I might add that the bows should be cleaned and painted so they do not rust and stain your new headliner. Also you might consider putting some insulation in the roof before installing the headliner. You can use the thin aluminum faced bubble wrap type which can be found at most home improvement stores. Use a good grade of glue to keep it stuck to the roof.
Hope this helps and if I missed something I'm sure others will fill the gaps.


ross49    -- 08-04-2016 @ 3:38 PM
  Thanks so much for that information. It is very helpful.


cpipp01@aol.com    -- 08-04-2016 @ 7:13 PM
  Hi I have attached a set of headliner retainers that mount above the door openings. The retainers are correct for a 1942 - 1948 Ford tudor and 1946 - 1948 Ford sedan coupe


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