| scramolini | -- 05-04-2016 @ 1:00 AM |
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Would 6.50x16 all weather black wall bias ply tires by Lucas for a stock/restored 1940 Standard Tudor be unauthentic or inappropriate? If not, would the same style in 6.00x16 be authentic or inappropriate? What would be the pros and cons to either? Thank you for your time and advice!
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| ken ct. | -- 05-04-2016 @ 3:56 AM |
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I DONT'T think they would be inapropiate but might be unauthentic if entered in a concourse national ford meet. being the wrong size. I don't think it would be even noticeable at say 10 foot. The size diff is sooo small it would be almost impossible to see the size unless up close and personal. OMO ken ct.
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| scramolini | -- 05-04-2016 @ 6:03 AM |
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Ken, Thank you. So, other than size the Lucas Firestone All Weather tires (the sidewall tread is a bit more "knobby" than say the "pie crust" sidewall) would be permissible in a concourse division? It "appears" that some stock photos show that Ford did use them at the time.
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| scramolini | -- 05-04-2016 @ 6:05 AM |
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I guess the better question would be what variety of tires did Ford offer for Standard passenger cars in 1940?
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| TomO | -- 05-04-2016 @ 7:48 AM |
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I lost my options list for the 1940 Ford, but I don't remember that 6.50x16 tires were an option for the Ford cars. Quote from 1940 dealer album "6.00 x 16 inch tires on all 85 hp cars. 5.50 x x16 inch tires on cars with the 60 hp engines. All tires in balanced position on wheels. Black tires are standard on all models. White sidewall tires are available for 85 hp cars at extra cost." The larger size tire would result in a 1 point per tire deduction, unless you have documentation that says the tires were an option. As to the style of the tire, there is no mention of this in the judging sheet. It is very likely that the black tires would be Ford script in 1940. I had a mid-year production coupe, back in 1950 that had 5 Ford script black tires. If you need a more definitive answer, contact John McBurney, the National Chief Judge. Tom
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| ken ct. | -- 05-04-2016 @ 8:01 AM |
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Thanks for the added info for this guy. I know Firestone was a major supplier for Ford but he did use Goodyear also to a lesser extent and Ford script ones. A 5 point deduction wouldn't hurt him too much it depends how much he wants a $ 5.00 trophy LOL. ken ct.
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| kubes40 | -- 05-04-2016 @ 8:41 AM |
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6:50 x 16" were absolutely available on the 1940 Ford passenger cars. However, NOT on a car equipped with the 60HP engine. The 60HP cars wore 5:50's as standard equipment. 6:00 were optional on these cars but wider wheels had to be purchased at the same time. Tires were supplied to Ford in 1940 by Goodrich, Goodyear, Firestone and of course, Ford Motor Co. itself. Pros? Cons? Personally I think the 6:50's look better on any '40 Ford. They fill the fender opening much better in my opinion. They are about 2" taller and about an inch wider than the 6:00. Very noticeable indeed. Drive-ability pros / cons? None that I have ever noted. By the way, whitewall tires were NEVER available on the 60HP cars. Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 5-4-16 @ 8:46 AM
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| SoCalV8 | -- 05-04-2016 @ 1:38 PM |
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Ken, Tom and Mike, Thank you all for the very thorough answers. Scotty
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