Topic: Woven brakes.


Gary M.    -- 04-08-2016 @ 1:50 PM
  Hi guys,
When I first bought my 39 Standard, it had woven brake linings which were quite worn but still stopped the car very well. I decided to replace them with the solid type figuring that I would get better wear out of them. Well they don't stop very well! You have to stand on the pedal to stop the car.
I decided to replace them again back to the woven type. I received them today only to find that all 8 linings are the same length. As I remember the front shoe lining is usually shorter at the bottom than the rear shoe lining.
Is this different when you use woven linings or did they send me the wrong parts?
Thanks....


cliftford    -- 04-08-2016 @ 3:01 PM
  Woven linings are softer than molded linings and tend to wear in the fit the iriregurities of worn drums. I'm not sure on the length. Maybe somone else can address this.


Gary M.    -- 04-08-2016 @ 8:00 PM
  I know that woven brakes were originally used for mechanical brakes but were they equal sized linings on the front and back shoes for them also ?


TomO    -- 04-09-2016 @ 7:03 AM
  The forward shoe must have a full length lining, having a full length lining on the rear shoe, should not have any effect on braking.

With the fixed anchors, the forward shoe does most of the braking while going forward. If you put the shorter shoe in the front, that would explain why your brakes are not working correctly.

With the Bendix type brake, the front shoe is shorter because the rear brake shoe does most of the work.

Tom


Gary M.    -- 04-09-2016 @ 8:07 AM
  So what your saying Tom is that when I switch to the woven brakes , its ok to put the full length linings on all the shoes and it will not cause any problems? As far as the way I put the solid linings on the last time, I don't recall where I put the short shoe but I'm sure I researched it before I did it. When I take the wheels off tomorrow ill know if I scr*w*d up and ill let you know. The walk of shame!!


TomO    -- 04-09-2016 @ 8:55 AM
  Gary,

Read this article on Ford brakes, it will help you understand how they work and how to adjust them for the best results.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0ahUKEwim0J7O84HMAhXKu4MKHXzUCSoQFgg4MAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flatheadv8.org%2Frumblest%2Fbrakes.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEuSrB3DVCNpC6kiVVx2PNLc8pZ_A&sig2=tMirsJQADtSLNDgfwjWVFg

Tom


Gary M.    -- 04-09-2016 @ 10:46 AM
  I read that article earlier but it still doesn't say weather to use both fully lined shoes when using woven linings.


Gary M.    -- 04-09-2016 @ 2:10 PM
  Well I did in fact have the short shoe in the back but the linings were very glazed. There was not much stopping power compared to when the woven linings were on the shoes.


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