| hafnerwwh | -- 01-02-2015 @ 5:29 AM |
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I'm new to the early Ford hobby and would like to know if anyone could point me to a chart or code for the correct wheel colors for a 1935 Ford coupe. Thanks
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| TomO | -- 01-02-2015 @ 6:22 AM |
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According to the V-8 Album all standard cars had black wheels. Here is a chart for the Deluxe cars: Body Stripe Wheels Black Apple Green Apple Green Dearborn Blue Poppy Red Poppy Red Cordoba Gray Poppy Red Cordoba Gray Vineyard Green Apple Green Vineyard Green Gun Metal Apple Green Gun Metal The body color chips can be found at: http://autocolorlibrary.com/ on Rogers might be able to supply the formulas for the stripes. Tom
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| hafnerwwh | -- 01-03-2015 @ 7:19 AM |
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Tom, Thanks a lot. Appreciate the help. Years ago I used to do a little paint work and I remember those Ditzler Paint chip charts. My car is currently a blue color and needs paint, among many other things, but I was wondering if there is anyway to actually know what color the car left the factory with? Thanks again for your help. Bill
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| TomO | -- 01-03-2015 @ 7:49 AM |
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It is pretty hard to determine the original color as Ford did not identify the color with a body tag. There may be original paint left on the inside of the doors, the top of the floor pan and other areas not usually painted during a repaint. Tom
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| flatheadfan | -- 01-03-2015 @ 10:30 AM |
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One of the problems I have found with National judging is the reluctance to vary from what was believed to be factory "original." As an example, back in the 50's after I graduated from high school I went looking for work especially, a job that paid "big bucks." Ford was hiring. I ended up working in the production scheduling department. Most of the other employees in the department had been there since the early 30s and had very good material and operational memories of what was acceptable for production. Now to the point. Yes, wheel color had a standard color based on body paint BUT, if the order called for a non-basic wheel color the cost was an extra $5 to the dealer. This means it was possible to get red wheels on a black 1935 car which was not customarily standard directly from the factory. So, to label a car as having the "wrong" factory wheel color can be very wrong in its' self. Ford has a history of going out of their way to build just about any type of a vehicle that would produce a sale. Needless-to-say, dogmatic "standards" can be disingenuous. Sorry, to ramble so much! Tom
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| deuce_roadster | -- 01-03-2015 @ 12:39 PM |
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As flatheadfan said, some exceptions to the standards were available to a customer, for a published cost. However, it is pretty clearly spelled out that if your car is on the concourse for judging and has deviations from the standards it is the responsibility of the owner to produce documentation for that deviation, not just 'word of mouth' that it was commonly done that way. If the car isn't to be judged, you can do it any way you want.
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| hafnerwwh | -- 01-04-2015 @ 9:54 AM |
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Gents, Thanks for the information. I find it especially interesting and enjoyable to hear from someone that actually worked at Ford and has that sort of "tribal knowledge". Point taken on judging and correctness with respect to deviations. For myself I intend to build a very nice car that is as close to "as delivered condition" that I can create as an amateur, but it won't undergo the scrutiny of judging. This one is for me to drive and enjoy. Just always wanted one. Thanks again for you help.
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| TomO | -- 01-04-2015 @ 11:04 AM |
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People seemed to be scared about having their car judged. IMHO this is not reasonable. The judges are not out there to pick your car apart. They are there to point out areas where your car is not to delivery specifications. You can then make the changes or ignore them. My car was entered into the Touring Class for many years, because the first restoration was done to make a good driver at the lowest cost. It won many trophys in that class and I enjoyed those meets as much as the ones where my car was judged. Remember that it is not about who has the best car, but who has the most fun with their car. Tom
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