Topic: vin number help


hotrod316    -- 12-19-2014 @ 11:57 AM
  just find this site and i need some help, does anyone know where i can (use in court) to show that 1934 the frames was use to locate the vin number and not the body, trying to prove ownership is to the frame and not to the body thanks in advance
steve m


fla48    -- 12-19-2014 @ 12:31 PM
  Steve,
Check the top of the frame, on the drivers side, near the front cross member. There may also be a number stamped on the frame rail under the body, forward of the rear wheel. This is where the numbers are stamped on the later fords, and I believe the location holds true for the 34. You may have to look close as they are usually covered with a lot of crud and paint.


hotrod316    -- 12-19-2014 @ 12:40 PM
  thanks we have the frame with the vin numbers in the correct places the problem is proving to the courts that this is a 1934 frame and the title if there was one was to the frame and not body
again thanks


CharlieStephens    -- 12-19-2014 @ 12:43 PM
  Have you checked the "Instruction Book" (equivalent to todays "Owners Manual) that came with the car? Reproductions are available. Have you checked the "Service Bulletins:? Not as "official" but have you checked the Club's Restoration Guidelines?

Charlie Stephens

This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 12-19-14 @ 12:44 PM


hotrod316    -- 12-19-2014 @ 12:50 PM
  thanks Charlie very good ones


42wagon    -- 12-19-2014 @ 4:50 PM
  Try Vanpelt Sales. They have the serial (vin) numbers by year and probably a discussion of what was used as the vin number by Ford in the 30s. This of course is the engine serial number which was transferred to the frame when the car was assembled. There were no body numbers except for bodies built for Ford by other companies.


trjford8    -- 12-19-2014 @ 6:04 PM
  Serial numbers for 1933 ran from 18-212239 through 18-561592. For 1934 the numbers ran from 18-561593 through 18-1030758. This information is from page 30 of the book titled The Early Ford V-8 as Henry Built It by Francis and DeAngelis. You may be able to find a copy at your local library or you find the book for sale on e-Bay or Amazon. Prices range from $50-$100 usually. You might find a used on Amazon. The information in the book came from the Ford Archives of the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan









































40 Coupe    -- 12-20-2014 @ 7:50 AM
  The vehicle owners manual will not show a list of serial numbers for 1933 or 34. Neither will any of the original ford Service Manuals. I understand VanPelt sales does have a list on their web site, I believe there are other sites also. You can google this. The vehicle serial number was stamped on the LH frame rail near the steering box and the front cross member, it is also stamped on the same member at the rear where the frame kicks up for the rear end. It starts with a star character 18-xxxxxx and ends with the same five pointed star character. The V8 Club (this web site)has for sale a 33-34 restoration book. This should stand up in court. The book list the serial numbers and month of production. as well as all other pertinent info necessary. Exact production dates (to the day) were lost to a fire at Fords Rotunda Building.


hotrod316    -- 12-22-2014 @ 5:03 PM
  thanks to all, it's in the courts hand now will let you know
again many thanks
Steve Morgan


TomO    -- 12-23-2014 @ 7:32 AM
  Motors manuals covering the 32-48 models are another independent source for serial number locations.

Tom


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