| nvjonkey | -- 11-15-2014 @ 8:09 PM |
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I am a newcomer to the Ford flathead V8, and a new owner of a 34 Ford Pickup model 46 with the V8 flathead.The engine # is *18-1301, the heads show a casting year of 1942 with 21 bolts, the frame # is 582954. Do I have an original or new or modified V8? Hopefully someone out there can explain the various numbers/years of this engine. Thank you, Bill This message was edited by nvjonkey on 11-15-14 @ 8:10 PM
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| cliftford | -- 11-16-2014 @ 7:05 AM |
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Beautiful truck. I no longer have info on the various vin and part nos. but I'm sure some one on the forum does. How about it guys? Lets help this guy out. A picture or two of the engine would help.
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| nvjonkey | -- 11-16-2014 @ 9:26 AM |
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Attached is a photo of the V8 in my 34 Ford. Thanks to all who may assist me..Bill
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| David J | -- 11-16-2014 @ 9:39 AM |
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Where is the *18-1301 located ? Is there a star after it ? If that is indeed the complete # it is a very early 32 tranny . The 582954 is a 34 # but it is not all there . Are there stars before and after it ? The prefix - arrow is missing also . Is it by the steering box ? The missing prefix is not really rare on 33's but should be there on a 34 . The motor pic you posted looks proper other than the replacement heads . Cast heads are normal on 34 pickups but yours are newer replacements . Nice truck BTW . OK after looking again the fuel pump in not a 34 . Still looks good !!!!!!!! This message was edited by David J on 11-16-14 @ 9:43 AM
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| 42merc | -- 11-16-2014 @ 9:43 AM |
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It could very well be the original engine with aftermarket heads replacing the aluminum ones. In the 60's it seemed like every OLD parts store had a pile of Ford cast iron replacement heads next to the back door.
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| nvjonkey | -- 11-17-2014 @ 9:48 AM |
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David, I rechecked the tranny number and it is as I said before. The frame number, adjacent to the steering housing is 582954*...I did not previously see the star at the end. If the fuel pump is not stock, do you have an idea as to the year Thanks, Bill
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| David J | -- 11-17-2014 @ 11:37 AM |
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Fuel pump looks to be a newer replacement . Your truck when new would have had the " small dome type " . The tranny number if correct is March 32 . The 582954 number is Jan 34 and I see you found a star after it . Should be one before it along with the prefix and double ended arrow though . As I stated before the missing prefix is not that rare on 33's but kinda rare on 34's . My 33 5w has the prefix on the tranny but NOT ON THE FRAME !! Stars and double ended arrow are there though . Had a 33 roadster years ago that was close serial # wise and it was the same on the frame # . Star , double ended arrow , 6 digit number and final star . No original tranny with that car so no idea on that . Should be a star after the tranny number and also before the frame number . Also according to the 33-34 V-8 club book on page 7-16 pickups after number 550532 had iron heads . So yours is supposed to have the iron heads but not the ones on it . Later replacements as the 1942 date shows .
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| nvjonkey | -- 11-17-2014 @ 7:20 PM |
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David, thanks so much for the info...I will continue looking for the # prefix. Sounds like the book you referenced would be a great investment. Again, thanks...Bill
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| David J | -- 11-18-2014 @ 5:54 AM |
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I occasionally complain about the book but it is by far the best around . Covers only 33-34 and for me that's all that's needed . You may be able to get a copy here ? I would think anyway .
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| trjford8 | -- 11-18-2014 @ 8:00 AM |
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You can purchase the book at the "on-line store" on the front page of this site. If you haven't joined the Early Ford V-8 Club you should consider becoming a member. The V-8 Times magazine is worth the price of admission. You get 6 issues a year and it's all about 32-53 cars and trucks.
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| 1934 Ford | -- 11-19-2014 @ 6:12 AM |
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Bill, Nice little truck! You'll have a ball with it. replacement heads are common and totally acceptable to me and most other 1934 Ford owners who drive them. Maybe we can all learn something from this thread. First I didn't know as David J said that trucks didn't have aluminum heads when new like the cars. Question: Did the V8 truck not have V8 hub caps? (I think the Ford oval caps indicated a 4 cylinder on the cars, but may have been used on trucks to use up the stock on hand.) Any experts on trucks out there? 1934 Ford's since 1972
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| trjford8 | -- 11-19-2014 @ 7:57 AM |
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I once owned a nice 33 ford pickup that was all original (paint, engine, etc.). It had the hubcaps with the Ford oval on them and was a factory V-8 truck. This is not to say that someone didn't change the caps over time , but it was a very original truck.
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| 1934 Ford | -- 11-22-2014 @ 7:42 AM |
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My 1935 Ford Pickup has always had V8 hub caps in the 25 years I've owned it, but then I've replaced most of them with better ones. Maybe the previous owners did the same. Still waiting for the truck authority on the Ford oval caps. 1934 Ford's since 1972 This message was edited by 1934 Ford on 11-22-14 @ 4:30 PM
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