Topic: Fuel Pump - Steel Bowl vs. Glass Bowl


LarryK    -- 08-23-2013 @ 8:27 AM
  My 1939 Deluxe Tudor has the original steel bowl fuel pump. I cannot find rebuild kits or the internal screens for this pump. Is the 59A-9350-A glass bowl pump a direct replacement? Are all the interfaces (i.e. the bolting, gasket, push rod, inlet fuel hose, outlet fuel tube) the same?

Thanks,
Larry Kenworthy


deuce_roadster    -- 08-23-2013 @ 8:49 AM
  Yes it should bolt on and work. Be aware that the gasket where the glass bowl seats must seal or the pump will suck air instead of fuel from the tank. The hose connection thread should be the same, the steel line to the carb uses the same Ford Nuts and compression sleeves.
I am surprised you cannot find a kit for your original style pump. Hang on to it in case you want to ever show the vehicle.


JM    -- 08-23-2013 @ 9:32 AM
  Contact Ken Isidor in Ct. He posts on Fordbarn as Ken ct. I am sure he can supply you with any parts you need for that steel bowl/top fuel pump.
I am running a '48 glass bowl FP on my '35 sedan with stock 21 stud engine. Everything fits fine, but I believe it is more likely to have vapor lock problems compared to the original steel bowl/top FP because the glass bowl sits so close to the intake manifold allowing the ethanol gas to get hot enough to boil. I could see this happening during several vapor lock incidents when the engine temps got up to ~200°F. To resolve this I am thinking about raising the pump and stand 1" using some type of insulator material and possibly going back to a steel bowl/top FP.

John


supereal    -- 08-23-2013 @ 10:48 AM
  You can obtain an original type pump, 11A-9350, from C&G, 800/266-0470, $62. A good many 34-48 vehicles have the glass bowl because the 59A was more generally available. It is actually for the 46-48's. I've never noticed problems with either type bowl due to engine heat as long as the pump was in good condition, and the line was clear.


ken ct.    -- 08-24-2013 @ 5:44 PM
  I have the parts you need,no kits but have most of the parts you need.Would need a pic of the screen. Afew diff ones were used in them. 39 uses an off set hole pump is that what you have. The 41 to 46 pump is very similar but the inlet an outlet are more or less straight across from each other ei at the same level and the top cover is slightly diff. ken ct. 1-203-260-5945 cell


TomO    -- 08-25-2013 @ 8:17 AM
  Picture of 36-40 fuel pump. The current replacement pumps are more like the 41-46 fuel pumps. The in and out are at the same level and the cover has small tabs that project downward.

Tom

This message was edited by TomO on 8-25-13 @ 8:20 AM


LarryK    -- 08-25-2013 @ 1:51 PM
  Thanks for the tip. I will get in touch with Ken.
Larry


LarryK    -- 08-25-2013 @ 1:52 PM
  Thanks for your response.
Larry


LarryK    -- 08-25-2013 @ 1:57 PM
  Thanks for your response.
Larry


LarryK    -- 08-25-2013 @ 2:18 PM
  Ken,

All I need right now are screens. I would like to purchase two of these if you have them. I have attached a picture.

Thanks,
Larry


40 Coupe    -- 08-26-2013 @ 7:52 AM
  Larry K: So you are aware, the filter screen you pictured above is not for the 36-40 style pump. It is for a later style.


JM    -- 08-26-2013 @ 9:15 AM
  Larry, another "just so you are aware" if you go with a newly manufactured fuel pump, as some have suggested, make sure you somehow check the fuel delivery pressure it produces to the carburetor. Some of these new pumps are producing ~ 8 (or more) psi while the carburetor inlet valves are designed for ~ 2 to 2-1/2 psi. Read flooding carburator problems.

John


JM    -- 08-26-2013 @ 9:18 AM
  Delete duplicate post which occurred when selecting return key on my iPhone. Only happens on this website for some strange reason.

This message was edited by JM on 8-26-13 @ 9:30 AM


JM    -- 08-26-2013 @ 9:19 AM
  Remove duplicate post

This message was edited by JM on 8-26-13 @ 9:20 AM


LarryK    -- 08-27-2013 @ 5:05 AM
  The pump I have is evidently a later style. The inlet and outlet ports are at nearly equal elevations. The screen pictured fits my pump perfectly.

Thanks



LarryK    -- 08-28-2013 @ 4:48 PM
  Ken,

I am sending a picture of the screens I need. I may have sent this previously to the wrong responder. I would like to purchase two if these screens if you have them.

Thanks,

Larry


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