| jimbohoh | -- 06-21-2013 @ 8:55 AM |
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Are there any reference photos of the 1933 firewall that shows how many holes there should be and what they are for? I am especially interested to know if the small tube for the gas gauge should go thru the same grommet as the main wiring harness? The id of the grommet is shaped for a second item. Thanks
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| CharlieStephens | -- 06-21-2013 @ 10:53 AM |
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I assume you have already looked in the Clubs '33-'34 restoration guidelines (I don't have a copy since my car is a '32). Years ago Bob Drake distributed a set of installation instructions for his '32 rubber grommet kits that was useful. I don't know if he has anything on '33 and probably not the best source off restoration information. Charlie Stephens
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| jimbohoh | -- 06-21-2013 @ 11:35 AM |
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Thanks for the reply. I have looked at the "restoration guide" and although there are several detail photos I don't see anything on the gas gauge line as it passes thru the firewall. There are about 36 holes in the firewall and I might know what about two thirds are for.None appear to be drilled after the car was made,but I did not take the car apart so I have no way of knowing. Thanks, Jim
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| CharlieStephens | -- 06-21-2013 @ 11:43 AM |
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You might take a few photos and post them. Identify the holes you know and point out the ones you have questions about. It would be good to also post them on the Early V8 section of fordbarn.com. Is your car a 4 or 8? I don't know about '33 but it makes a difference in '32. Charlie Stephens
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| 40 Coupe | -- 06-22-2013 @ 4:20 AM |
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The wiring harness, vacuum wiper tube and the hydrostatic line all pass through the grommet. Photo below is a 34 Standard Coupe. This message was edited by 40 Coupe on 6-22-13 @ 4:26 AM
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| jimbohoh | -- 06-22-2013 @ 2:20 PM |
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Thank you all for the input, especially the photo! I am going to fit up the original inside fiberboard sound pad which will explain about 20 of the 1/4" holes and take some pictures as suggested. Is it possible that some of the holes were put in as a mirror image for the right hand drive models? Things like throttle pedal and speedo cable? Thanks again, Jim
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| jimbohoh | -- 07-18-2013 @ 3:06 PM |
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Thank you again for your help! I finally found the parts and hardware to continue my investigation on the firewall holes. Most of it I have figured out except for the lower pass side. I have included some photos to help. There is a hole in the very bottom v shaped rib that is not a perfect circle about 1" wide that also has a corresponding 1/2 round notch in the wooden floor board? Directly above are two 7/16" holes? About 5 1/2" above and more towards the center are two more 7/16" holes? Both sets of holes are about 1 3/4" apart. The last unknown hole is 1" in dia and a few inches away from the knock out for the columbia. Are any of these holes original and if so what are they for? It will be a big step backwards to have to weld them up and repaint, but this problem is holding up assembly and needs to be solved! Is it possible that someone installed an aftermarket heater? I have all the original insulation boards and the cover with holes that match the unknown holes, but I know that does not make it right. Your help will be very appreciated with this problem. Thanks, Jim
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| jimbohoh | -- 07-18-2013 @ 3:07 PM |
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More pics
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| jimbohoh | -- 07-18-2013 @ 3:08 PM |
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More pics
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| jimbohoh | -- 07-18-2013 @ 3:08 PM |
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More pics
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| 3w2 | -- 07-18-2013 @ 7:52 PM |
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In your first photo, there are five holes that were made well after the car was built. Sorry about that. The photo below is of a stock '33 firewall. While the car is a four, the only difference in the firewall compared to a V-8 is the addition of two small holes immediately above and below the crease in the firewall on the center left side (to attach a small bracket that holds the throttle cable away from the crease).
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| 3w2 | -- 07-18-2013 @ 8:13 PM |
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P.S. That hole you refer to as the knock-out for a Columbia (which Ford did not offer in '33) is actually the hole for the choke cable, windshield wiper vacuum line, and gas gauge air line on a four-cylinder engine.
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| jimbohoh | -- 07-20-2013 @ 7:37 AM |
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Thank you very much for the info,especially the picture. I had a feeling about the mystery holes so time to fire up the welder. Jim
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