| Ashraf | -- 10-06-2012 @ 1:57 PM |
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Please help me identify this car is it Ford 1937 convertible?
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| Stroker | -- 10-06-2012 @ 2:23 PM |
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Do you have any other views; or are you just trying to identify a photograph? The photo is obviously of a Ford due to the "wide-five" bolt pattern on the spare, but the shape of the rear and tail lights do not resemble domestic Fords of that vintage. It almost looks like a late 30's German Ford, and could be a four-door convertible sedan from that era, or a German custom-bodied two-door. Please give us a little more "context" to go on.
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| supereal | -- 10-06-2012 @ 2:26 PM |
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It isn't possible to tell with only the back shown. The wide wheel bolt circle places it in that time. The usual determining factor is the side windows. The convertible (cabroilet) has roll up windows, while the roadster has side curtains. In either case, finding an open '37 is a real prize.
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| Ashraf | -- 10-06-2012 @ 2:35 PM |
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I have other views on Video files is there is a possibility to post it here?
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| Ashraf | -- 10-06-2012 @ 2:48 PM |
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I upload the videos on YouTube please follow this link to see it http://youtu.be/dT0WWTOHVgU http://youtu.be/vBFi3NDzRIA
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| Stroker | -- 10-06-2012 @ 3:31 PM |
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Thanks for the videos. I still looks German to me, and it is obviously a convertible. What puzzles me is that in 1937 the German Fords had a similar grille, but retained the flat, one-piece 36-style windshield. The headlights look like they came from a 39-47 Chevrolet pickup. The "tray" over the engine is also strange, but it appears to have a flat head V8 lurking below. Now that you've really piqued our collective curiosity, would you consider sharing a little background, with the understanding that you can disguise certain aspects to protect the actual location, in case you are worried about someone under bidding you. Is it possible that it is Russian?
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| Ashraf | -- 10-06-2012 @ 6:39 PM |
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Hi Stroker I am sorry I don't know so much all I know that this car is here in Egypt somewhere outside Cairo I feel the headlights is not originally, the front end looks 1937, but I feel the rear end is different, also please have a look for the dashboard it is totally different I own 1935 V8 Tudor under restoration so I am some how familiar withe 30's ford but this car looks different for my knowledge Ashraf
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| ford38v8 | -- 10-06-2012 @ 7:42 PM |
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It is definitely a Ford from the '37 era, perhaps even later. I do not believe it to be German. What is more likely I think, would be South African. This is only speculation, but the headlights may actually be original, as the outlying assembly plants did have a great deal of lattitude in style and accessories, particularly if due to problems that otherwise would have stalled production, the fenders for '37 being a complex stamping. The tray in the engine compartment is a logical solution to where to lay down a tool while working with your head under the hood. I'd say an add-on, but for the location of the radiator fill cap, so perhaps this also was original. Again, speculation, hopefully someone can chime in with the real scoop. Alan
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| drkbp | -- 10-06-2012 @ 9:10 PM |
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Ashraf, I believe you are looking at a '37 Cabriolet. It looks to be a rumble lid with the spare mounted on it. Gas filler is added. Deck lid of a Club Cabriolet would be as a coupe and would have had a little rear seat. It has been worked on for a fact. Cabriolet door windows are almost the same for '35 -'38, maybe '39 and that is what you have. LHD. Let us know what it turns out to be. Ken in Texas
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| Stroker | -- 10-07-2012 @ 4:25 PM |
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Alan, et al: I know they built Fords in the 30's in Germany, the UK, Argentina, and of course the US. What other countries had Ford plants? I'd guess this rare beast has a story to tell, would be interesting to find out a little more. Ashraf: If you have access to it, perhaps you could find a body plate (usually under the hood on the firewall). That "interesting emblem" on the grille may be an aftermarket piece, and I believe the headlight nacelles with their sealed beam headlamps and parking lamps on top are late 40's GM truck, as they are "dead-ringers" for those components; but most of the car is obviously Ford. I've never seen an early "alligator" hood with a raised section (similar to early US 50's Ford trucks), and I agree that the dash has an earlier 35-36 look to it right down to the style of the headlight switch in the steering. We're an international club, so perhaps some of our overseas members will chime-in. The tray over the engine could hold a variety of interesting objects that one might wish to not have in the passenger or luggage areas, if one was subject to border searches.
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| ford38v8 | -- 10-07-2012 @ 11:22 PM |
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Dan, There was a plant in China, I believe. South Africa as I mentioned earlier, and of course Australia and Canada. The Netherlands and France both had plants, Norway may have had a plant, several in the UK, and dozens more locations manufactured service parts as well as parts for assembly plants. I don't know how many of these plants made it into the 1930's, but the Model T Ford was assembled in all corners of the world. The Model T was actually built in Russia well into the '30s. In addition to the actual Ford plants in Europe, there were many coach builders who started with cowl/chassis and built custom bodied Fords, which itself tends to muddy the search for Ford Facts. Alan
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| Stroker | -- 10-08-2012 @ 8:29 AM |
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Alan: Thanks! The left-hand drive pretty much rules out UK domestic production, and I'm still leaning towards a continental European source. The combination of a "vee" windshield, and the primitive dash almost suggests a factory far removed from the supply chain.
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