| Flatbob | -- 09-20-2012 @ 10:07 PM |
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Heads are marked 59AB and I believe that was for the years '46-'48. What looks unusual to me is the oil pan and the twin shift levers; would this engine be out of a truck? Tried to post pics.
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| 40 Coupe | -- 09-21-2012 @ 3:50 AM |
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because of the shift levers it appears the transmission is truck. It is possible the 59AB could have been used in a truck and the trans and oil pan bolted to it. I believe it is also possible the 59AB heads may have been used on a truck engine.
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| 1932BB | -- 09-21-2012 @ 6:11 AM |
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So what's with the twin shift levers? Can anyone shed some light on this? Doesn't look like a splitter!
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-21-2012 @ 7:11 AM |
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The engine is not a 59. No bell housing on the block, and not visible in the picture, but should have the LoadaMatic distributor. Heads are interchangeable with the 59 series heads. Might be an 8RT. Alan
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| supereal | -- 09-21-2012 @ 10:35 AM |
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The transmission is similar to the type used in marine applications which required only a forward-reverse gear. A photo of the front of the engine would be helpful in determining the model of engine. As noted, the clutch housing appears to be of the later 8BA type, a sort of ring that connects the block to the transmission. Marine and commercial power units often had unusual configurations not seen in either cars or trucks.
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| Flatbob | -- 09-21-2012 @ 11:56 AM |
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Here's another photo
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| deuce_roadster | -- 09-21-2012 @ 1:09 PM |
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Looks like a cast on bell housing to me, I don't see any bolts holding an 8ba one on there. The pic from the front makes me think it is a 59 series block. Water pumps don't have that extra part sticking up, angle of block down from head surface, etc. I think you are right 46-8 That is one bizarre shift lever deal though. How about a picture of the top of the trans where the lever(s) go in?
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-21-2012 @ 2:46 PM |
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Appears to be a water cooled oil pan. Look at the front inlets, one with a hose, and in the first picture the outlet pipe and attached hose, and the stack pipe? Open drive and a speedo turtle. Unusual creature! Alan
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| supereal | -- 09-21-2012 @ 3:23 PM |
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It sure looks like a later clutch housing, but it is so cruddy, it is hard to be sure. The distributor is definitely a 46 to 48 type. If it isn't a marine adaptation, it could be an engine used on a pump or a sawmill, etc. Lots of these engines were used for such purposes. One thing is sure: it looks like it is scr*p.
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| deuce_roadster | -- 09-21-2012 @ 4:16 PM |
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Flatbob, thanks for sending pictures of this thing! It is fun seeing oddball stuff like this. I wonder if someone built a Rube Goldberg deal to watercool the pan? Didn't some truck pans have a part that could unbolt so you could change the clutch without removing the whole pan? Maybe they started with something like that. If you double click the pictures and enlarge them you can see detail better. There is something cast where a "59" would be but can't quite make it out. Maybe it was to run a big saw or water pump like Super said --some stationary use. Maybe it was from Alaska and they pumped HOT water through that setup to keep the oil from getting too thick!! Ha it would be fun to know the whole story on that thing.
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| Flatbob | -- 09-21-2012 @ 4:30 PM |
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Am wondering if this engine was used in some sort of mining application. The mountains surrounding Las Vegas are filled with old abandoned mines.
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| Flatbob | -- 09-21-2012 @ 4:37 PM |
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Another view
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| Stroker | -- 09-21-2012 @ 4:46 PM |
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1932BB: I'm with you on the weird trans shift tower. I've dealt with "Brownies", Eaton 2-Speeds, etc. but I've never seen a shift tower that had two sticks. It's obviously a 38-48 block, but beyond that, I can't add a lot. If it was a marine application, I'd think that it would have water-cooled exhaust manifolds. I'll vote with Super though, that its' highest and best use may be the smelter (so it can come back to us as Chinese water pumps).
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-21-2012 @ 9:13 PM |
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The last picture presents another element: The fan with the big pulley... If that mounts somehow on this engine, I'd think a stationary high revving engine, with a very high mounted radiator! Alan
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| 42merc | -- 09-22-2012 @ 4:06 PM |
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Expanding the first photo you can see 59 on the top of the bellhousing and 18-??on the trans. Trans & rear mount looks like 35-36 to Me. The two sticks & rear coupler I don't recognize. The fan & generator bracket are narrow belt 8ba. This message was edited by 42merc on 9-22-12 @ 4:10 PM
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| 40guy | -- 09-22-2012 @ 4:18 PM |
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4-Wheel drive trans?
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-22-2012 @ 7:03 PM |
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42Merc, I think we've all expanded the pictures, and don't see what you see. Alan
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| TomO | -- 09-23-2012 @ 5:44 PM |
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The 59 on the top of the bell housing shows up real plain on photo 3. It is a 46-48 engine, with a modified oil pan and a mystery transmission. I think Supereal is right with the marine application. Tom
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