| 35Phaeton | -- 12-16-2009 @ 6:59 AM |
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My spare tire cover has no pre drilled holes to attach a ss trim ring. The mounting clips (9) that came with the ring look like a small staple...big round head with two legs that would go thru the cover and get folded back against the cover. Drilling question: Is there one hole per clip to accomodate both legs or two holes per clip that each leg of the clip would go thru?? I even question if its a round hole or a narrow slot..so as not to be wider than the ring? Jim
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| wmsteed | -- 12-16-2009 @ 8:21 AM |
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I wonder, do you really have a '35 tire cover? The '35 tire covers all came with a stainless trim ring located midway between the edges of the tire cover. See page 22 of the 1935-36 Ford Book published by the EFV-8 Club. I am not real sure about the covers used on the '35-36 pickups, they could have been plain w/out the stainless trim, however, the majority of these covers have stainless trim. I don't have a '35 tire cover, I have several '36 covers. The stainless trim on the '36 face covers is attached with a special "flat spade" that extends through a slot in the cover and is then twisted to lock in place. Note!! A little trick taught to me by a very skilled body man was to slightly heat bendable/twist type fasteners prior to trying to remove them, then quench with water. The heating/cooling trick stops them from breaking, yet retaining their strength for reuse. You may have an aftermarket tire cover that was made for the "continental" spare tire mounts of the late '40's, etc. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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| 35Phaeton | -- 12-16-2009 @ 4:32 PM |
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Bill, I have also wondered if it was a 35 cover, it came mounted on the car( which probably doesn't mean much), fits well on the 6.00-16 tire...I did notice two holes on the cover which I don't know what they are for... Maybe the attached photos will help with identication. Jim This message was edited by 35Phaeton on 12-16-09 @ 4:34 PM
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| 35Phaeton | -- 12-16-2009 @ 4:35 PM |
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Here is another photo...guess you can't attach two to a post??
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| 35fordman | -- 12-16-2009 @ 4:46 PM |
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I just looked at a 35 cover I'm working on and it has one hole per clip. Actually the one I have has what looks like a studded clip with nuts on the backside so I'm going to have to figure that one out later.
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| wmsteed | -- 12-17-2009 @ 8:35 AM |
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Rethinking my earlier statement about tire covers on '35-36 Ford pickups turned on another light in a dark corner of my brain. The pickups did not come with tire covers... The locking cap on the pickups was attached to a band that extended over the top of the tire and latched into a bracket on the tire mount. In reviewing the pic's that Jim attached, the cover appears to be the same style as the '35 cover shown in the EFV-8 Club '35-36 Book with the exception of no bright trim. I also noted in the pic's that the face cover appears to extend over the tire with the outer ring extending over the cover, in lieu of the two being engaged at the outer rim where the rubber edge should be. It is very common to see '35-36 tire covers w/out the rubber in the outer edge.... Many body men ground/sanded the rubber off when doing paint prep. As I have already stated, the continental kit covers used on the '49-53 Fords were very similar to the '35 cover w/out SS trim. I also seem to recall that the license plate was attached to the cover on the '49-53 Ford Continental kits. So....how do you solve the problem? Simple...if it has SS trim and/or holes for same, it is a '35, if none of the preceding are there... the cover has doubtful parentage. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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| 40 Coupe | -- 12-18-2009 @ 6:09 AM |
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the nine holes for the trim are not round but actually slots. Original clips are different that the replacements and fit in the slots and are then twisted so they lock in place.
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| 40 Coupe | -- 12-18-2009 @ 6:09 AM |
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the nine holes for the trim are not round but actually slots. Original clips are different that the replacements and fit in the slots and are then twisted so they lock in place.
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| 35Phaeton | -- 12-18-2009 @ 6:51 AM |
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Thanks for both of your responses, I don't think there is enough clearance between the cover and tire to accomodate a stud & nut as Fordman has... Bill..the tire cover does have a rubber gasket around the outer peremeter but painted the same color as the cover and undetected in the photo's. The outer cover ring does ride up the tire cover about 1" beyond the rubber gasket...based on your input..has me now thinking the tire cover might be to large and most likley for a larger tire size(?). I will add a '35 cover with trim ring to my short list.. Thanks, Jim
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| wmsteed | -- 12-18-2009 @ 11:02 AM |
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I measured 3 of the '36 Ford tire covers I have, all three of them were 26-5/8" OD. I would surmise that the measurement is correct for a 600x16 tire. If your cover is larger than the above measurement, you could have an earlier 17" cover or one for a 650x16 commercial car... Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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| MOXIE | -- 12-18-2009 @ 2:35 PM |
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The fit of the outer cover to the face cover looks correct to me. I would just cut the slot holes you need, add S/S trim and no one would be able to tell.
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| 35Phaeton | -- 12-19-2009 @ 2:47 PM |
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After Bill's last response I think were getting to the bottom of this...my tire cover measures 27 1/2"OD and the really old 600-16 tire still on the spare is approx 27"OD.... I will see if I can find one and if not I may have to do as Moxie has suggested... Thanks to all..if anyone knows of a 35 spare tire cover please advise... Jim
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| wmsteed | -- 12-20-2009 @ 9:20 AM |
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I just took another looked at the tire cover on my '36. The cover sits on top of the tire, terminating about 1/4" short of the tire edge. I checked the measurements on two fairly new 600 x 16 tires I have, they are 27" OD. Since the cover in question is 27-1/2" OD and has no SS trim rim, I would surmise that it is not for a '35 Ford. In all probability, the only tire covers that are brand specific, are the covers for the '36 Fords, the majority of which have the simulated Ford hub cap in the center. I find it interesting that in reviewing publications dealing with old cars, it appears, that of the lower priced cars, Ford stood alone in using full tire covers. GM used full covers on their higher priced cars, Cad and Buick, as did Packard. With few exceptions, the majority of the manufactures preferred partial covers. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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| bigvince | -- 01-01-2010 @ 1:17 PM |
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My guess is that your trim plate is actually for a 41-48 Woody Wagon. It is missing the bracket that attaches it to the wheel/perch. I've got the cover for my spare and the holes for the bracket are idetical to the holes in the picture. I also have a 35/36 spare tire trim plate and the size and shape is identical to the 41-48 sans slots for the trim stainless trim ring The 36 has nine slots that are horizontal and not round. This allows you to adjust the trim ring. Hope that helps. Vince
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