| j.grif | -- 09-22-2011 @ 8:56 PM |
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I have a problem with the 36 coupe. Hyd brakes 42-48 in the rear with 35 spoke wheels. Set brakes too tight and as result cannot remove the hub to check for the damage. The hub puller/hammer try did not move it. Tryed force by kicking but not a movement. Would appreciate ideas of how to remove the hub-maybe a puller of some sort. Maybe tomorrow I will remove the whole assy from the axle and go from there. Thanks
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-22-2011 @ 10:38 PM |
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Grif, I'm not sure of your exact situation. If your drum is stuck solidly to the axle and has not budged with the KRW hub puller, then the hub puller is still the way to go. If the hub puller was succewsful in breaking from the axle taper, it has done its job and cannot help you further. In this case, there are several other things that can be holding the hub in place. 1- An easy one, look here first: Safety tabs bolted to the back of the backing plate intended to prevent loss of the wheel (drum) in case of a broken axle. 2- Emergency brake set. Feel like a nut. 3- Adjusters haven't been released. Open em up. 4-Hydraulics preventing release. Open the bleeder valve on the backing plate. 5- Brake shoes cocked from missing keepers or hung up on ridges in the drum. Lottsa luck. Worst case scenario, torching the backing plate to get to the shoes. Alan
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| supereal | -- 09-23-2011 @ 7:39 AM |
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Alan covered the usual causes. I didn't understand whether you got the taper loose, but the drum won't come off, or the taper is still stuck. If the taper hasn't released, the Winfield puller will get it loose, given enough tightening of the screw, and a big enough hammer. Be sure the wheel on the opposite side is off the ground. If the taper is loose, but the drum won't come off, my bet is someone forgot the clips that hold the shoes to the backing plate. This allows the shoes to cock and firmly grab the drum. I once spent a full day working a drum off for that reason. It eventually came off by turning and tugging it a tiny bit at a time. This message was edited by supereal on 9-23-11 @ 7:42 AM
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| j.grif | -- 09-23-2011 @ 3:13 PM |
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Thanks much. Today I ran the car while on blocks and pumped the brakes a bit and then after shutting down used the little hub puller again and the hub came off no problem. I wonder if having the other wheel off the ground made that much difference when using the puller? Or did running the car remove the hang up? anyway back to step one of brake adjustments.
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| supereal | -- 09-23-2011 @ 8:16 PM |
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Many years ago, the standard way to get Ford rear hubs off was to use a "knockoff", which was a big threaded nut that was scr*w*d on the axle,, and smacked with a very big hammer. Part of the routine was to put the opposing wheel off the ground to allow the axle to move slightly so the inertia popped the taper. The downside was stripped threads and bent axles. We just headed for the pile of axles at the local junk yard. Those days are gone, Most of us own or borrow the Winfield puller because the junkyards are long gone, and axles are very expensive.
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