| thirtysixford | -- 03-06-2011 @ 5:14 PM |
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I just pulled a rear drum off my '36 and found that the tapered portion of the axle that protrudes from the backing plate is scored, and chewed up. The square key was installed, but the key way had obviously been repaired. The car drove and braked OK before. What would cause this? Do I need new axles? Second question. Is the rear wheel bearing "packed" with grease or is it lubed by the diff oil?
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| 37RAGTOPMAN | -- 03-06-2011 @ 5:28 PM |
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ouch, if you can, post a picture. the axle bearing is lubed, with wheel bearing grease and the real axle is lubed with the lube that is in rear axle housing, it sound like you need some real good used real axles,and rear hubs, good thing is that they were used for quite a few years, but a good picture is worth a 1000 words, might be able to use what you have ??? hope this helps 37 RAGTOPMAN
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| thirtysixford | -- 03-06-2011 @ 7:28 PM |
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I,m not up to speed on pictures , but here's a try
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| supereal | -- 03-06-2011 @ 8:50 PM |
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Any axle showing a damaged keyway isn't safe to use. When an axle breaks, it is usually right at the end of the keyway. A hub that wasn't properly tightened, then retightened after a few miles can work loose and hammer the keyway out of shape. When you pack the roller bearings in the hub, use only the sticky yellow "heavy duty brake drum grease". There are several brands, with Sta-Lube being the best. Be sure to order the correct axle, as there are several types, but look alike. The correct axle for '36 is 48-4235, 32.85" with 18 teeth. The later axles have 16 teeth. Be sure to correctly count the teeth on your axle, as it was common to swap the whole axle when one gave out. This message was edited by supereal on 3-7-11 @ 9:10 AM
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| CharlieStephens | -- 03-06-2011 @ 9:24 PM |
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I would replace the axle. If you have hydraulic brakes be sure to run safety clips or safey hubs especially if you decide not to replace the axle. Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 3-6-11 @ 9:27 PM
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| thirtysixford | -- 03-07-2011 @ 9:53 AM |
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Thanks everyone I figured as much. Looks like I'm in the market for a pair of axles as the other side looks the same. How do I know if the hubs are usable? Also where do you get safety clips? Looks like you must completely disassemble the rear end to change these out. While it's apart, any other items I should consider replacing? I think it has a 4.11 gear in it now, I was thinking of going to 3.78 any thoughts? Mike
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| 37RAGTOPMAN | -- 03-07-2011 @ 10:02 AM |
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thirtysixford, nice job with the picture, NOWS the time to go though the rear,and do it right, on the ratio, it depends what body style, and were you live, I went to the 354-1 I have a 37 CABRIOLET and works great,using the std 85hp engine, and were I live here in MAINE there are hills , but have had no problems, if you have stationwagon which is a lot heavier you might need the higher gear set, hope this helps 37RAGTOPMAN if you buy a used rear,, it still may have problems,and you will still have to take it apart and atleaset reseal it, still might find a bad axle or bearing, chipped teeth, but then again maybe you will get lucky.,or buy from a person that already has done one, try the FORD V8 SHOP in NY. This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 3-7-11 @ 12:31 PM
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| supereal | -- 03-07-2011 @ 10:27 AM |
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If the rear end is in bad overall condition, I'd look for a 3:78 unit as a replacement before investing in both axles and a ring and pinion set. Installing and setting a gear set is a time consuming and difficult job, particularly if you haven't done one before. Most gear sets are foreign made now, and there are reports of noise problems with them. It is a good bet that there is a rear end out there that was discarded by a street rodder. Crating and shipping is a consideration, of course, but worth a try.
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