Topic: 36 missing brake wedge bolt ?


cbabek    -- 07-06-2022 @ 2:56 PM
  Gentlemen,

i am buying a 36 cabriolet and looking at one of the pictures I took - it looks like the adjusting wedge bolt is missing from the RF backing plate.

Is there something I dont Know here ?


3w2    -- 07-06-2022 @ 8:42 PM
  Perhaps not missing but scr*w*d in to the point of almost falling out which means the drum is worn way past its usable limit.


40 Coupe    -- 07-07-2022 @ 5:15 AM
  36 the "bolt" in the center of the operating wedge is rivited in place. So there is no nut on the backing plate. 35 has the "Bolt" that has a nut on the backing plate. This is true for all four wheels. WAIT ONE SECOND, your photo is showing the top of the backing plate and the square end of the brake adjuster seems to be missing. If this car has brake equalizers (floaters) then the adjusting wedge bolt is replaced by the equalizer. In order to make the brakes appear as original I cut the the wedge end off the adjuster bolts and after adjusting the brakes reinstall just the square end into the hole to make everything appear as original for judging. It is possible this is what has been done to your 36 and one of the adjuster square ends has been left off??? hard to tell without asking the owner. If the car is yours then inserting a screwdriver into the hole and feeling for a wheel with cut outs for the screw driver. Insert the screwdriver in one of the cut outs and try moving the cut out up or down. If it can be moved, then you have to adjust with the screwdriver.

This message was edited by 40 Coupe on 7-7-22 @ 5:31 AM


cbabek    -- 07-07-2022 @ 5:33 AM
  I appreciate the response

I cant imagine the brakes would even work with the adjusting screw all the way in.

was there an equalizer or floater system that removed the adjusting screw ?

thanks

Chris


50CaPU    -- 07-08-2022 @ 12:43 PM
  I have TEDs on my 35 and have a set of extra after market floaters. All have some sort of wedge with a square shaft. The brake wedge cannot be scr*w*d all of the way in with stock parts in place.. A quick test will tell if you are missing the front brake action.

IMO.........My concern would be for other mechanical deficiencies that you will need to address after purchase. While not an insurmountable issue(s) to fix it needs to be corrected or the price adjusted before you bring it home.

Southside Auto supplied all of my mechanical parts when I restored mine. Fred is the best.

Tim
Downtown, Ca

This message was edited by 50CaPU on 7-8-22 @ 12:44 PM


v8er    -- 07-09-2022 @ 7:05 AM
  Please show your location. Potentially there is a knowledgeable 36 owner near you that can look at your car and can help with this question and others.


cbabek    -- 07-11-2022 @ 3:01 PM
  Guys,

I appreciate the comments - I am having the car picked up next week - or I would have just taken the drum off and looked inside. I foolishly only took that one picture of the backing plates. the others may or may not be that way. the car drove and stopped well. thats why i am thinking it is some sort of "self adjuster" - or I am going to have a rube goldberg setup to deal with !!

Ill let you all know how I make out

thanks again

Chris


ford38v8    -- 07-11-2022 @ 3:28 PM
  No such thing as a self adjuster on a car of that vintage. Not a Rube Goldberg either. Be happy if you have a star adjuster.

Alan


40 Coupe    -- 07-13-2022 @ 4:59 AM
  Floaters or equalizers allow the top of both shoes to move an unequal amount which gives better shoe contact to the drum and better braking. The original adjusters only allowed the top of each shoe to be adjusted an equal amount.
Both the original and equalizers require adjustment.


nelsb01    -- 07-13-2022 @ 5:32 AM
  The one question that has not been addressed is -- with the original brake adjuster bolt removed to allow the floaters to be adjusted, what keeps dust, dirt and water from entering the opening while driving?


Don Rogers    -- 07-13-2022 @ 5:41 AM
  Original floater kits had rubber plugs to plug the hole


nelsb01    -- 07-13-2022 @ 6:36 AM
  Thanks Don!

So, my one idea of using a wine cork is not too far off.
Like most things rubber, they probably dried out, shrunk and fell out.




Don Rogers    -- 07-13-2022 @ 10:07 AM
  Bruce, remember its about the journey (drinking wine), not the destination (using wine corks for plugs)


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