| 36fordcvsedan | -- 11-06-2020 @ 7:31 AM |
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I am rebuilding a 1936 engine. The thermostat for 36 looks unique. Is there a common style that can be used instead. If so what other years will fit?
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| trjford8 | -- 11-06-2020 @ 8:22 AM |
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Try Michael at Third Gen Automotive. Ph# 844-327-5988 This message was edited by trjford8 on 11-6-20 @ 8:24 AM
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| FordHead | -- 11-09-2020 @ 5:11 AM |
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I have been all through this before. I currently run my 36 without thermostats, she runs at about 170 -180 degrees. You can use traditionally thermostats but need to figure a way to keep them in place sitting in the hoses. Some guys use stainless steel wire others (I like this) cut a small piece of radiator hose that can fit snugly in the cars hose maybe 2" long to hold the therm in place, works great. And yes the 1936 thermostat is unique but can be found for $$$. 1936 Ford Model 68
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| FordHead | -- 11-12-2020 @ 3:45 PM |
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I decided to put therms and a temperature gauge in the other day for my 36, I used standard type 180 degree therms as the original type are hard to find and expensive. Worked out great got both from Napa cost me $12 for the two, temp stays at 190 degrees now. 1936 Ford Model 68
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| ken ct. | -- 11-12-2020 @ 3:55 PM |
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That looks like a 37 + cyl. head not a 36. ?? ken ct
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| FordHead | -- 11-12-2020 @ 5:33 PM |
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1936 - water pumps in the front 21 studs. 1936 Ford Model 68
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| 3w2 | -- 11-13-2020 @ 7:45 AM |
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Originally, the in-hose thermostats in '34-'36 heads were kept in place by the addition of a third hose clamp.
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| FordHead | -- 11-13-2020 @ 4:27 PM |
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I know that, but unless your a purist this does work for a lot less money and very available. 1936 Ford Model 68
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| FordHead | -- 11-13-2020 @ 4:30 PM |
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original therms look like this 1936 Ford Model 68
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| 3w2 | -- 11-13-2020 @ 5:01 PM |
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Really, then why not indicate that? Instead you posed your question as though you did not know and were seeking to find out. And, by the way, there was no thermostat unique to the '36s, it was the same thermostat from '34 through '36. It carried a 40 part number prefix, not a 68 part number prefix. This message was edited by 3w2 on 11-13-20 @ 5:04 PM
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| FordHead | -- 11-13-2020 @ 6:42 PM |
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I never asked a question 1936 Ford Model 68
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| 3w2 | -- 11-14-2020 @ 4:19 PM |
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You're correct, sorry; it was only a misleading, inaccurate statement.
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| Wltr_Mitty | -- 12-16-2020 @ 1:58 PM |
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"Originally, the in-hose thermostats in '34-'36 heads were kept in place by the addition of a third hose clamp." No need for another hose clamp. Original style thermostats for these cars are seated in the radiator inlets under the top (single) hose clamp. Direction of flow also helps to keep them in position. Using his words, not mine, I find 3w2's reply to be nothing more than a misleading, inaccurate statement. I also find his other replies offensive. He would be better served posting on the Hamb where many thrive on handing out insults as a way of covering for their ignorance. FordHead - Thank you for your contribution. Don't be dissuaded by trolls. Thermostats are a good idea and will help minimize sludge and improve performance in these old motors run year round. Warm-up is quicker and operating temperature is maintained. Using a modern thermostat is a bit restrictive but can actually help the 21 studs run cooler by slowing flow through the radiator. Many of the old-schoolers use washers or trim the pump vanes to slow flow thus "giving the radiator a chance to cool it down". Of course 3w2 knows all of this so he need not bother reply. If you're feeling industrious you can also make a couple of modern thermostat holders for 21 stud-ers using 1-3/4" copper pipe and galvanized flashing (pictured). They slip over the radiator inlets under the hose like the originals and are held in securely with the single hose clamp. Cheers
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| 3w2 | -- 12-16-2020 @ 6:19 PM |
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Well Walter, I wouldn't normally reply to your mud slinging, but you blew it by describing your "modern thermostat holders as "...like the originals...", which they are not. There are people who read the threads on this site who care about what was original and what was not and you would be hard pressed to document those holders as original to 1936 Fords. You will not find them listed in a 1936 edition of a Ford chassis parts catalog where the 40-8575 thermostat is listed. They are a good idea functionally, but not something Ford used in its '36 model production.
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| Wltr_Mitty | -- 12-16-2020 @ 9:05 PM |
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Wow. 3w, you're a real piece of work. So much discussion about attracting and retaining new members... and it seems so many like yourself work hard to scare them off. Really gets me hot under the collar. I promise to be more civil as I know you will too. Keep it to a constructive discussion. I don't think anybody would mistake my contraptions as original or even like original but I'll give you credit for pointing out that the original thermostats did not look like or attach to the radiator such as the early aftermarket model pictured by another poster. I'm pleased you think them a good idea. As long as we are being cordial with each other, I'll offer you and possibly a few other members some education. Ford stopped using the extra hose clamp on thermostats beginning with the 1935 models. Reason being if tightened too much, or in the wrong place, the clamp would interfere with operation. I've seen more than a few '35,'36s with the extra top clamp. Judges take note. I've attached a page from one of the Ford Service Bulletins, February 1935, depicting one of the originals. See the section titled Service Instructions. Pretty sure you won't find this in the '35'36 restoration book unless it was added later. You see, there are people who read the threads on this site who care about what was original and what was not... I couldn't agree more and I don't go a single day without learning something new. Cheers This message was edited by Wltr_Mitty on 12-16-20 @ 9:06 PM
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