| a duece bruce | -- 03-31-2020 @ 11:56 PM |
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Hi, I'm new today. Bruce Champie Garberville Ca. 71 yrs. Retired Carpenter Veteran I built an A roadster on a 37' frame, 32 grill, at Vern Tardel's shop about 12 years ago. 21 stud Eddy Meyer built up Flattie. I wish it would fit in my living room, so I could look at it all the time. It's still rough looking, I don't want to out shine the original paint on the grill. I can't bring myself to sand it off, maybe someday I'll paint it. I drive it a lot, and a rear brake cylinder leaked. Took both sides apart. I can't remember the order of the washers on the hand brake crescent arm. there are 2, one flat, one wavy. I'm thinking wavy behind and flat on top with the keeper. Needs to be room for the L arm under it. I Can't find the right diagram. Would some one enlighten me please. oh, the brakes are 1946, round hole with flat sides at the bottom. thx This message was edited by a duece bruce on 4-1-20 @ 1:39 AM
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| 40 Coupe | -- 04-01-2020 @ 5:56 AM |
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I like the appearance of your car! The parts you reference were for the 46-48 rear brakes. I like to take the pin and install the flat washer then place the pin into the hole of the hand brake lever. Install the spring washer between the brake lever and the brake backing shoe. I don't think it matters on what side of the hand brake lever the spring washer is on so it could be installed on the pin after the washer and then assemble the three pieces into the hole of the lever and then through the brake shoe backing plate. I like to have a large flat surface on both sides of the spring washer as well as next to the hand brake lever.
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| 51woodie | -- 04-01-2020 @ 8:09 AM |
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I had a look at the drawing in the "Green Book", page 26, and the rear brake assemblies I took off my '46 Coupe and got confused. Well maybe not, as the drawing and my assembly differ. I am sure the brakes were worked on several times before I got the car. On the drawing, if I understand it, the pin goes through the flat washer, the spring washer, the arm then the shoe, with the u-clip going on the back side of the shoe. The drawing definitely show the pin #2107 going in from the drum side of the arm/shoe. Having said that, my assemblies are just the opposite, as you can see in the picture. Just my observation.
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| 1931 Flamingo | -- 04-01-2020 @ 11:11 AM |
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Ck out MacVanPelts site, there should be a blow up picture of the parts and their placement, or try an on-line catalog of some of the other EV8 vendors. Is there a car in the first picture ?? Paul in CT
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| a duece bruce | -- 04-01-2020 @ 1:23 PM |
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Thanks for the responses. None of the diagrams I could find,inc Van Pelts, show the order, just the parts. If the green bible shows flat on the outside and spring between the arm and shoe I guess we have been told. I see Im not the only one to have the pin backwards. I'll try it the bible way and see how it clears the L arm. Thanks Paul, for noticing what a lucky old guy I am. That dog is priceless, and grandma makes sheltering in place a pleasure. Now, to get that roadster back on the road for some essential therapy! Happy Motoring, a duece bruce
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| 51woodie | -- 04-01-2020 @ 3:43 PM |
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More information to confuse the subject. In Bob drake's catalogue #30, the pictures on page 332 and 341 both show the pin in from the backside, and the clip on the drum side. I looked in my 1942-1948 Ford Merc shop manual, and Page E2, Fig.4 shows the pin going in from the outside but does not show the washers. To add more confusion, the same manual, page E-8, Fig. 14 shows the pin in from the back and clip on the outside. Does that mean that Ford didn't think it was critical as to how it is assembled? Note that the drawing shows the rear shoe has the short lining. This message was edited by 51woodie on 4-1-20 @ 3:46 PM
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| a duece bruce | -- 04-01-2020 @ 7:36 PM |
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I think the hand brake arms can be put on the shoes on the bench, so the keepers could be installed on the backside, then install the shoes. Harder to install the brake spring with the arms in the way? Maybe not. I put the shoes on, with the pins in from the back, put the brake spring on, then hold the pins from the back and put the arms on. Spring washer between the shoe and crescent arm, flat washer under the keeper on the outside. No washers on the L arm. A LITTLE anti-sieze sauce on them and on the shoe pads and bottoms. I doubt it matters which way the pin goes. I live on a 4 mi steep hill, I'll let you know how they work. Here's my next build, 37 coupe. A guy needs a closed car! For days like this. Happy Motoring! a duece bruce
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| a duece bruce | -- 05-02-2020 @ 1:37 PM |
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It was great to get back on the road. My brake job is working good. Here comes better weather and I'm ready to go! Thanks for the advise. Happy Motoring, Bruce
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