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torpedo
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-- 05-31-2010 @ 2:15 PM
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Dear All,
I own a 1933 canada-built flathead (750 body style)
I need to rebuild my water pumps. I have identified rebuild kits.
One question though:
Can someone tell how the pulley gets secured to the shaft.
The shaft included in the rebuild kit has the hole drilled but there is none on the pulley.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Max
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37RAGTOPMAN
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-- 05-31-2010 @ 2:51 PM
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if you cleaned the pulleys real well and can see no pins in them,
they are pressed on, becareful pressing the pulleys off,
one wrong move and the pulleys will break, made out of I believe that year were cast iron,
but could also be steel
do you know what material they are made out of?
if they are pressed on you should not be able to use the pins,
I see no way you would be able to drill out the pulleys to get them inine to install the pins,
hope this helps 37RAGTOPMAN,
I sent mine to SKIP for rebuilding,
was worth the money,,,
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lightflyer1
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-- 05-31-2010 @ 6:06 PM
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Sent my 35's to Skip as well.
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supereal
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-- 06-01-2010 @ 8:24 AM
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Rebuilding any waterpumps requires special tools to ream and resurface the pump bodies. Skip Haney is considered to be the best in the business, and you will get back the pumps you send him. Without the tools, kits are mostly useless.
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torpedo
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-- 06-02-2010 @ 2:10 PM
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Thanks guys for your help and tips.
Identified pumps from Reds Headers. Has anyone tried them ?
I do not know what metal/alloy the pulleys are made of but studying the matter with a machining specialist.
Not based in the US so getting the pumps to Skip Haney is likely to be cumbersome and somehow expensive. I will ask for a quote anyway as he is highly recommended by many flathead owners.
All the best
Max
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torpedo
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-- 08-24-2010 @ 1:51 PM
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If that can help other owners in need of pumps, most vendors are out of stock for the rebuild kits.
Reds Headers do sell new pumps @ 99$. I have ordered two and they are good.
Beware the pumps are sold without grease fitting and without temp sending hole nut. the Russell part number 662050 will do the job.
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supereal
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-- 08-24-2010 @ 2:58 PM
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The in-head type water pumps are getting very scarce, and if you ruin it trying to get it apart, as often happens, it won't be worth the effort. In most cases, the pulleys are cast, and without the tools and skill, they break like glass. We use Skip, and I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem sending them anywhere. Red's Headers was run for many years by Red Hamilton, but since has been sold. Red knew his stuff. Perhaps he new owners do, too. Skip's e-mail is skip@fordsrus.com
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35ragtop
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-- 08-24-2010 @ 10:14 PM
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Im in Australia and guys here have sent stuff to Skip and have nothing but praise for his work. The freight is fairly minor to the overall project.
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torpedo
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-- 09-21-2010 @ 1:28 AM
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Hello,
Thanks to all for the help and advice provided.
Reds delivered the pumps and everything was OK with them. The pulleys are slightly narrower than original so had to fit a longer belt to adjust.
Drove 200+ miles since they were installed and no problem to report.
Cheers.
Max
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torpedo
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-- 04-11-2012 @ 1:45 AM
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Dear All V8 enthusiasts,
Just a quick update on water pumps.
Items supplied by Red's once the sole source for modern repros of the pumps are also available from Macs < I have not tested them though.
Red's pumps have proven to be reliable with improved cooling capacity (compared to original pumps) probably due to impeller design. However use caution when packing with grease as excess pressure will damage the pump and cause leaks.
Anyone here tested Mac's pumps ?
Regards
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51f1
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-- 04-11-2012 @ 8:20 AM
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Once I tried to press off a Ford V-8 water pump pulley. It broke. I have never tried that again.
Richard
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supereal
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-- 04-12-2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Look at page 40 of the newest V8 TIMES. Dennis Carpenter shows his new "in head" water pumps for 32-36. They are the way to go, with new impeller design, ceramic seals, roller bearings, and new housings. Rebuilding water pumps requires special experience and tools, such as the appropriate reamers. Most cast pulleys are brittle as glass, and take special care to remove intact. Carpenter is a first class vendor with few or no backorders.
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Manuel
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-- 04-21-2012 @ 1:00 AM
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Hi,
New 21 stud water pumps and heads are made and avail in Australia.
Cheers,
Manuel in Oz
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JM
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-- 04-24-2012 @ 9:55 AM
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My recommendation is to send your original pump cores to Skip Haney in Punta Gorda, FL. I just had my third set of original Ford pn '35 core pumps rebuilt by Skip. Have also recently had my third set of original pn core '37-'48 type pumps rebuilt by him. He stands behind his rebuild work 100%, no questions asked. If you should ever have ANY problems with the pumps he rebuilds, he rebuilds them again for you at no charge. This also allows you to have correct parts rebuilt for show cars if that's the intent of your project, and these rebuilds can be done on good original USA made core castings, rebuilt in the USA, while keeping an American employed...which are all winning situations IMHO. Carpenter is definitely a top notch supplier, but his new pumps, like the others who are supplying new pumps, are all being made in the big Asian country. Will these suppliers stand behind these foreign made parts 100%....you probably already know the answer to that one. No...I don't work for Skip Haney or receive any type of commission from his sales. I am just a happy customer based on the many items I have purchased from him over the years and wish to spread the good word  .
JM
This message was edited by JM on 4-24-12 @ 9:58 AM
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tbloss
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-- 05-05-2012 @ 6:08 AM
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Who knows where these pumps were made, but probably NOT in the USA. The correct belt doesn't look like it fits the pullys, but my my real concern is why anyone would want bearings in a 32-36 pump. Because of the short shaft, with a constant stream of water on the shaft while running, its just a matter of time before the water will get to the bearing. Of course if this happens the bearing will lock up, so just call AAA. With bushings you will probably get home.
Ship rebuild my pumps on a 35 Cp over 10 years ago. Since then lots of miles & no problems. Thats a better test than a few hundres miles. Time will tell how these new pumps will work out.
Tblossom
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