| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-02-2019 @ 2:07 PM |
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Hello, I am restoring my 37 Sedan Delivery. The interior kick panel (aka cowl panel?) is held in place, in part with a vertical trim piece that screws into the door jamb area/post. What is the panel made of and what screws or nails are used to hold the metal trim piece in place? One other question...what is the original color of the trim piece? Thanks for your help. gregg
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| kubes40 | -- 04-02-2019 @ 4:51 PM |
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The panel is cardboard. Slotted - flat head screws. I think #8's. Not 100% certain. I have to wonder why you are concerned about what screws to use? Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 4-2-19 @ 4:54 PM
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-02-2019 @ 5:52 PM |
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Thanks Mike. Call me anal...call me whatever you want...I try hard to make everything as original as possible. I do take liberties sometimes, but in general, I want it to be like Henry built it. That said, one of my 37's is a mish mash when it comes to the undercarriage, but the other 37's are going to be as original as I can make them. Case in point, awhile back I set out to find out what "color" Rustic Brown really is. After a lot of investigation, I came up with a ppg color that looks identical. I tested it on a 37 mirror stand which was in good condition. I masked off half of it and painted the other half with the ppg paint. It was hard to tell them apart. Anyway, thanks for the information. gregg
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-02-2019 @ 6:49 PM |
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Okay, call me lazy also. I pulled out a couple of my reference books and found the following: From the Body Part List book for 1937, page 58, the cowl panels are listed: 78-700685-C: cardboard cowl assy, brown fine colonial grain, R.H. 78-700684-C: cardboard cowl assy, brown fine colonial grain, L.H. 78-900696: Retainer (cowl) cardboard, R.H. 78-900697: Retainer (c0wl) cardboard, L.H. 32916-S2: Screw From the Automotive Hardware and Trimming Supplies book, 1928-1938, page 156: 32916-S2: No.8 x 3/8" You were right on. Does anybody know of an outfit that supplies this particular cowl cardboard? Thanks, gregg This message was edited by 1937sedandelivery on 4-2-19 @ 7:16 PM
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| kubes40 | -- 04-03-2019 @ 5:50 AM |
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Good morning Gregg, I'd asked about your concern as I noted the plastic wiring... I didn't figure were restoring this vehicle but rather, simply putting it together nicely. The cardboard with that grain was available from LB. Unfortunately for all of us, that is no longer an option. I am unaware of any alternate source. Hopefully, someone else knows and can help you... Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-03-2019 @ 8:15 AM |
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Yeah, good catch on the wiring. Obviously it's not the original cloth stuff. And I put dynamat everywhere I could. Even with that, the Sedan Delivery sounds like a big echo chamber when I drive down the road. Upholstery should help some. The rear quarter paneling is made of Masonite, which probably isn't the best sound absorbing material around. gregg This message was edited by 1937sedandelivery on 4-3-19 @ 9:02 AM
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| nelsb01 | -- 04-03-2019 @ 9:20 PM |
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As the best source has gone away (LeBaron Bonney) I would check out Mac's. I just ordered the headliner, door panels and kick panels from them for my pickup and the quality is good, and it even has a pattern, although not as defined as original. But..........better than nothing. And, the screws will need cup washers. Those were supplied with the kit, although not the correct finish.
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-03-2019 @ 9:29 PM |
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Thanks Nelsb01. I will hit them up. Like you say, something is better than nothing. I am wondering if the front kick panels on a sedan delivery are the same as some other model??? In the past when I talked with LB and asked them if they had kits for a sedan delivery, they said no. gregg
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| kubes40 | -- 04-04-2019 @ 5:28 AM |
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I don't think anyone had ever developed an entire kit for the sedan deliveries. I've heard that having the authentic Masonite(?) panels for the storage area to use as patterns is crucial. The cowl kick panel should be the same as the closed cars of '37, at least in shape (size). Yes? Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 04-04-2019 @ 7:59 AM |
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Pretty sure I won't be able to find any original Masonite panels. Will have to slowly mock something up. I have a Fordor, so I can check to see if that kick panel area is the same. gregg
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| 3w2 | -- 04-04-2019 @ 4:53 PM |
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Mike, I'm pretty sure that the sheet metal screws retaining the vertical channels for the cowl trim panels had pan heads and were #8s.
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| 42oink | -- 05-18-2019 @ 11:00 AM |
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A possible source for the kick panel is Restoration Inc in (Winnabow?) Pa. They have the material if you have the pattern. They do a lot of the big meets and are good for screws, clips etc. Hope this helps. 42oink
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| 42oink | -- 05-18-2019 @ 11:48 AM |
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OOPS! Update from above. (Not that above, the previous entry. ) It is Restoration Specialties and Supply in Winber, Pennsylvania. Hey,I was close. Good luck 42oink
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 05-18-2019 @ 2:01 PM |
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Thanks for the update, 42oink gregg
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