| Ozzy | -- 12-29-2018 @ 6:45 AM |
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Hi ! I need help identifying the the piece you see in the attached photo. There's two per Sway Bar, one on each end. I'm calling them "bushings" but as they go on the ends of the bar maybe they're called something else. I have the 11A-3558-A bushings that go in the brackets that hold the sway bar to the chassis. It's the two pieces that pivot in the Perch Bolts and slide on the ends of the Sway Bar are what I'm looking for. Could somebody please help me.
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| TomO | -- 12-29-2018 @ 8:47 AM |
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Those are the early style swivels. The part numbers are shown on page 96 of the Green Book. Most of those parts were obsolete by 1948 and I don't know of any reproductions. The later style has been reproduced, but I understand that they are not as stiff as the originals. You can probably find a later sway bar, buy the later style swivels and install it on your car, but if you do you may get a point deduction on the Concourse. I don't see a standard deduction and my guess would be 2 points for both swivels. If you wish to keep the car correct, you could probably find the bushings or cast your own from urethane, but I don't know how you could replace the dust shields. here is a copy of the drawing of the old style. Tom
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| G Tosel | -- 12-29-2018 @ 12:34 PM |
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If you do change to the later sway bar, you also need to change the frame bracket mounts, since they are shorter than the later model. One other problem is getting the mount removed from the wishbone to axle itself. These things seem to get "welded" into position and replacement on the car would be very difficult. I added the later sway bar to my 36 Ford Coupe, but found the early shorter brackets worked better than the longer later ones. I made my own connection to the axle mount and that was shared with a tube shock conversion.
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| kubes40 | -- 12-29-2018 @ 3:55 PM |
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That sway bar on your car is in fact the early type. These days, it is rare. The parts for them are extremely difficult to find. The rubber boots are about as existent as a unicorn. If you are determined to restore this assembly, you are in for a great hunt. Be aware there are two different swivels (that's the part you'd asked about) as there were two different diameter bars. I have installed three of these assemblies in the past ten years or so. All NOS parts. However, it took me years to locate all the pieces. If changing to the later design, you must replace the perch pins to accommodate that design. The early sway bar was obsoleted around March of 1940. Every car built before that I have seen on the concourse has the later style and thus should receive a deduction. Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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| Ozzy | -- 12-30-2018 @ 7:07 AM |
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Thanks Tom for the explanation and the parts drawing. All is clear and understood. I'll have no issues making the internals but yes, some imagination will be required in order to duplicate the dust covers. And as the reply from G Tosel said, the perch bolts can be difficult. The axle upside down on a bench, WD40, heating tip and 4lb sledge did the trick. Greg
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| Ozzy | -- 12-30-2018 @ 7:26 AM |
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Thanks for the explanation Mike. If you think it difficult finding parts up there in the USA where all the NOS is, try it down here in Peru where I am. But having said that, I did come across this set of .030" pistons the other day which even though I don't need them, I bought just for the originality of the box which looks to have been laying in a parts store since 1939. Greg
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| 51woodie | -- 12-31-2018 @ 7:58 AM |
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Ozzy. Over the years, I have used Devcon products for metal and rubber repair. They make products that are castable, and may meet your needs in repairing your suspension. You will need to do a bit of research to see if one of their products will work for you, and make molds for casting the parts you need. https://itwperformancepolymers.com/products/devcon/devcon-products/devcon-flexane-94-liquid https://itwperformancepolymers.com/products/devcon
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| trjford8 | -- 01-01-2019 @ 3:53 PM |
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Ozzy., if you need the swivel pieces there's an early sway bar for sale on the San Francisco Craigslist. Go to "auto parts" and when it pops up look on the left side and select "owner" ,then in the search box type "1940 Ford". There's a guy who has three sway bars for sale and one of them is the early bar with the swivels attached. You need to open up the photo of the '40 dropped axle and wishbone to see the sway bars.The seller lives near Chico, California. He wants $100 for each bar. I tried to send you a private message, but you have it disabled. Hope you see this message. This message was edited by trjford8 on 1-1-19 @ 3:59 PM
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| TomO | -- 01-02-2019 @ 8:21 AM |
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Here is a link to the post that TRJford mentioned https://sacramento.craigslist.org/pts/d/ford-dropped-beam-front-axle-beam/6777420977.html There is also a NOS swivel for sale on E-Bay https://www.ebay.com/itm/352351961897 and another https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-FORD-DELUXE-MERCURY-FRONT-STABILIZER-SWIVEL-BUSHING-NOS-01A-3556-B/123548413601?epid=18007674274&hash=item1cc40f2ea1:g:Bi0AAOSwTw5bl-7L:rk:2:pf:0&vxp=mtr Tom
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