Topic: Starter solenoid for 1938 ford


KAS1954    -- 12-05-2017 @ 2:59 PM
  Engine will turn over even with key off using button. Any ideas why?


coup    -- 12-05-2017 @ 3:38 PM
  your supply is hot from batt and you activate the contact, very handy!!


KAS1954    -- 12-05-2017 @ 5:01 PM
  I am typing this for my husband. He pulled the solenoid off to clean and now it acts as if it wants to start but never does. Is there anyway for my husband to speak to you.


KAS1954    -- 12-05-2017 @ 9:04 PM
  I am typing this for my husband. He pulled the solenoid off to clean and now it acts as if it wants to start but never does. Is there anyway for my husband to speak to you.


4dFordSC    -- 12-06-2017 @ 10:55 AM
  If you are a member, suggest you check the EFV8 Club directory for someone in your vicinity.


KAS1954    -- 12-06-2017 @ 12:54 PM
  He is a member so I will check there next. Thank you


TomO    -- 12-07-2017 @ 7:31 AM
  Have your husband check the wiring of the solenoid. The stud on the passenger side of the solenoid goes to the starter, the center terminal has one wire that goes to the starter button and the stud on the drivers side of the solenoid has the battery cable, a yellow wire the feeds the rest of the car and a yellow wire with a green tracer that goes to the horn relay. The solenoid should be mounted with the button or raised center on the bottom.

Tom


KAS1954    -- 12-09-2017 @ 10:22 AM
  Tom. I attached a picture showing how it's connected. Now it turns over but wo having key on and no lights. Horn works


KAS1954    -- 12-09-2017 @ 10:51 AM
  Tom. I attached a picture showing how it's connected. Now it turns over but wo having key on and no lights. Horn works


supereal    -- 12-09-2017 @ 10:54 AM
  Common mistake is to install the solenoid backwards. The cable from the battery connects to the right hand big terminal side along with the smaller wires that feed the system. The other side big terminal goes to the starter only. For those taking anything for the first time, take a photo before you start.

This message was edited by supereal on 12-9-17 @ 10:55 AM


KAS1954    -- 12-09-2017 @ 11:19 AM
  Did you see the attached picture? Isn't that the way it is?


JayChicago    -- 12-09-2017 @ 12:08 PM
  It looks to me that you have it connected properly.

Turn-over with the key switch off is normal. It should do that. The starter does not need key switch on to turn-over. However, key switch must be ON for the engine to start (fire and run on its own).


supereal    -- 12-10-2017 @ 1:38 PM
  Yes, I did see the picture, but the advice is still the same. When a large cable is connected to an appropriate terminal, it is easy to have a poor connection with smaller conductors as the nut is tightened. We use ring terminals on all the wires in the junction to be sure. With heavy load of the starter, it reduces the voltage to the coil. That is why we devised the "quick start" circuit years ago.


TomO    -- 12-10-2017 @ 5:10 PM
  When you turn on the ignition switch does the gas gauge work and will the engine start?

There is a fuse that feeds all of the lights, did you check to see if it is blown?

The solenoid has internal wiring that supplies 6 volts to the solenoid coil, the starter button provides the ground to complete the circuit to pick the solenoid and energize the starter motor.

Tom


42wagon    -- 12-11-2017 @ 3:24 AM
  I'm a little confused. If wired properly when you press the starter button the starter should be energized and will spin the engine. However the circuit with the spark plugs in it will not be energized unless you turn the key and then push the ignition switch to on. Is this what is happening or are you telling me that the engine will no longer start even with the key and switch in the on position?


KAS1954    -- 12-11-2017 @ 10:46 AM
  Yes that is correct. The key is on and push button and will not start


MG    -- 12-11-2017 @ 12:07 PM
  When trying to start, does the engine turn over fast or slow when you press the start button? What is the condition of your battery?

1. Insert key
2. Turn key
3. Flip ignition switch to ON
4. Depress START Button - engine should turn over

Is this the procedure you're using?


KAS1954    -- 12-11-2017 @ 12:14 PM
  Yes that's the procedure I use and it turns over fast and battery is good


KAS1954    -- 12-11-2017 @ 12:17 PM
  Tom the fuse is good. The gas gauge moves and it will not start.


MG    -- 12-11-2017 @ 12:46 PM
  You mentioned in a previous post that you had spark but it was "very weak". Is your distributor and coil original/stock equipment? Can you post a picture of your distributor and coil assembly?...


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