| 1937sedandelivery | -- 07-22-2017 @ 11:27 AM |
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Hello, I am looking for a 37 truck. The books I have, list a 77-810 and 77-830. What are the differences? I am interested in a simple pickup truck. Pics would be great. Are parts harder to find for one vs. the other? Thanks, gregg
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| nelsb01 | -- 07-22-2017 @ 8:14 PM |
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According to the book Ford Trucks Since 1905 by James K. Wagner.............. 77-830 was the 1937 pickup - 85 hp 112" wheel base According to the Body Parts List Passenger Cars - Commercial and Truck 1937 - Ford Motor Company June 1938 77-810 was Closed Cab (specify if for Model 77 or Model 79) Model 79 is 85 hp 131 1/2" wheel base In looking through the parts listed for Model 810 Closed Cab, it lists parts for back, door, floor, front, roof, seat, and windshield. These are the section titles. Whereas, the parts listed for Model 830 just lists parts for a pickup bed (chain, gate, hinge, front panel, side panel, fuel gauge plate, reinforcement (side panel flare), spring (tailgate), and side support panels). Don't know if this helps you or not.
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 07-22-2017 @ 9:16 PM |
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Thanks, this helps some but still leaves me with not knowing visually, what the differences are. It comes down to closed cab vs. pickup??? I think I know what a pickup is but am struggling with how it differs from the closed cab. Pictures will be a big help. gregg
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| nelsb01 | -- 07-23-2017 @ 6:00 AM |
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Using the Wagner book again.............there are three pictures of open cap 1937 Ford big trucks, but all of them are on the bigger chassis -- 131 1/2" chassis, 157 inch chassis (fire truck), and the 131 1/2" drive away chassis (factory photo). There is a photo of a milk truck which the caption says that it started as a 1/2 ton (112") driveway chassis. So, it looks like there never was a pickup model that was an open cab in the US. The cab was the same for pickup and big truck. The front fenders, running boards (shorter), and front bumper were different for the big trucks (131 1/2" and 157").
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| DD931 | -- 07-24-2017 @ 7:40 AM |
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I've just consulted the "Green Book", page 755 ('37)and Page 757 ('38). It seems clear that the -830 is a 112" wheelbase pickup. The -810 is just listed as a "Closed Cab" (both standard and deluxe) for '37. The '38 listing for -810 lists Closed Cab for 112", 122", 134" and 157". Also, COE Chassis. It looks to me like the -810 was just a chassis with a closed cab (as they all did) and the -830 is a regular pickup. By the way, the '38 page also lists the Express (which was not available in '37) as a -830 .
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 07-24-2017 @ 7:55 AM |
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Thanks for digging guys. Looks like I want the 77-830, regular ole pickup. Now, if I can only find a good "barn find" deal. gregg
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| DD931 | -- 07-25-2017 @ 8:21 AM |
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Good Luck!! These are very popular trucks!!
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| 42oink | -- 07-25-2017 @ 12:19 PM |
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Greetings truck fans! To add a bit of smoke to this discussion, in the Ford Information page of this site, a 37 pickup is listed as vehicle code 78-80A for standard or deluxe, the panel delivery is 78-80C and D for standard and deluxe respectively. I know trucks are 77 or 79, so that's an easy one. But, (and who knows where this came from), in the membership roster legend in 2009 and before, an 810 was for a Jeep GP/GPW and 830 was for Other Military. OK, hold on, I know there were no Jeeps in 1937. In the rosters from 2010 on, the Jeep was designated 81 O and Other Military was 83 O. The pickup is now 80A, the open cab (AKA roadster p/u) is 80B, and the panel delivery is 80C. Sooooooo! Maybe he should look for a 79-80A or 77-80A. Whaddyall think? Smilingly, 42oink
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| wmsteed | -- 08-03-2017 @ 10:18 AM |
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I restored a '37 Ford 1/2 ton in the mid '60's. In some respects it was a difficult project, they were plentiful at the time so I bought five of them for parts donors. Still have some of the left over parts in the garage.. The problem with the '37 pickups is that they are basically a one year truck, still having a lot of "36 body features and hardly any of the '38-39 body features. The mechanical features are not an issue because very little changed in the mechanical department. I would suggest that you purchase the best one you can find, you might pay a little extra for it, however, in the long run it will be easier and more cost effective to work with. A stocker might be a good idea, however, one that has been modernized might be more practical, safety and driveability wise.. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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| 1937sedandelivery | -- 08-03-2017 @ 2:57 PM |
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hmm, didn't know that, good food for thought. I find it difficult enough to locate parts for my 37 Fordor. I swear I have bought everything available on ebay. Just bought another 37 Sedan Delivery, quite rough. That should keep me busy for some time, while it drains the bank account. Thanks Bill. gregg
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