Topic: 1947 Tonner Front Fender


rawlir    -- 12-23-2013 @ 8:01 PM
  Hello, All, HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
Can anyone tell me what Ford Part#21T1600 is,
I am having trouble with my parts book, wondering if this is a 1947 Ford Front Fender for a 122" WBase Tonner....

Thank you!

Rick


bonusbuilt1950    -- 12-24-2013 @ 7:42 AM
  21T 16005-6 fenders are for 42-47 trucks with 6.00 x 18 inch tires only. Wheelbase does not matter. Does not fit COE's.

Barry

50 F-1


rawlir    -- 12-24-2013 @ 4:00 PM
  Update!
I have found a NOS left front fender (REVISED Part#21T-16000) I am trying to determine the Ford truck it fits.
The seller advises it has this part # on it.
My 1947 Ford Truck Sales Handbook (Dated 11/46) shows Standard tires for 114"WBase are 6.50/16, for the Tonner it shows 7.00-17 & the 1 1/2 Ton & 2ton show 7.50-20 size.
Any thoughts on why the Part# is 16000 & why the Ford Sales Handbook numbers do not read 6/18?

Thank you!

Rick


bonusbuilt1950    -- 12-25-2013 @ 7:28 AM
  He is reading the last digit as a "0" instead of a "6". 16000 is a fender moulding basic for a car. All Ford fenders are 16005 for right and 16006 for left. It's the prefix that tells the model. If it's definitely 21T, then it fits your truck. Wheelbase has nothing to do with it.

Barry

50 F-1


49fordv8f4    -- 12-25-2013 @ 6:20 PM
  Front fenders for the '42-'47 Tonner would be the same as those on a 1 1/2-2 ton truck. Merry Christmas! Mark


rawlir    -- 12-26-2013 @ 3:28 PM
  Mark & Barry,
THANK YOU For your replies!
Are you saying 21T is for a Tonner or bigger?
I did not want to confuse this discussion with Wheelbase measurements but when you made reference to wheel sizes I referred to my sales handbook that had various wheel sizes for the 3 sizes of trucks (not including COE.s) by wheelbase.
I hope the seller is misreading the last 6 that he saying is a 0, I am rechecking with him......
Rick


49fordv8f4    -- 12-27-2013 @ 7:31 AM
  Yes 21T should be tonner and larger. If the part number started with 21C prefix they would be for a 1/2 ton pickup or panel. I'm not sure where the 122" 3/4 ton truck fits, if it uses the truck (21T) or commercial (21C) fenders. But to answer your question the 21T fenders are correct for your truck. Mark


rawlir    -- 12-28-2013 @ 5:37 PM
  Mark,
Thank you!
In 46 & 47 they produced 1/2 ton, Tonners, 1 1/2 & 2Ton models only. I assume you agree then that Tonner and bigger models used the same front fenders (excluding COE?)
Thanks!

R


49fordv8f4    -- 12-29-2013 @ 10:06 AM
  Yes the tonner and larger trucks, except COE, used the same fenders.
122" 3/4 ton trucks were available from '38 or '39 thru '47 as panels, express and probably platform stake. I'm not sure about the platform stake version, it was available as a tonner so I assume it was as a 3/4 tonner also. I have seen a couple of '42-'47 3/4 ton express trucks. They are odd ducks, I don't think very many were built. There are a lot of tonners around. I have my Dad's '47 express, but I no longer have the bed, we have a flat bed on it now.
The 3/4 tonner, IRRC, used the same large bolt pattern on the wheels as the tonner, but used 1/2" lug bolts instead of the 3/4" the tonner used. The 3/4 tonner also had its own specific part number prefix on parts that were unique to the 3/4 ton trucks. For instance, a 21C prefix would be commercial or 1/2 ton; 21D prefix would be 3/4ton ( D denoting parts specific to 3/4 ton); 21Y would be tonner or 1 ton ( Y denoting parts specific to 1 ton); and 21T would be for trucks larger than 1 ton. There is some overlap in parts usage, while a part may have been designed and assigned to a specific model it could be used in other models also, Hence the 21T prefix for the fenders on your truck.
I hope this helps,but it is probably clear as mud .
Mark


rawlir    -- 12-29-2013 @ 7:12 PM
  Mark,
Thank you again for the info. I too, have a 47 Express, along with a Dearborn 46 Commercial pickup and a 47 1 1/2 ton Flatbed. I would like to converse with you some more, if that works for you can you email me at rickr@lakesideind.com?

Thanks so much!

Rick


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