Topic: 1937 1/2 ton pickup cab heater


trixietruck    -- 08-18-2013 @ 1:34 PM
  Hello everyone, We recently took up a new project, a 1937 1/2 pickup. A couple of questions to start. Anyone have any pictures of a heater for this truck? Upon removing the heater in the truck, I came to the conclusion that it is not for this truck. Maybe it is, but here's why:
1. Two studs on the bracket for mounting, one was cut off purposely because I believe it would have had a clearance issue between the motor and the firewall.
2. Only one of the two holes that I believe are for the factory heater core were used. The tubes for this heater are closer together, and the firewall was really butchered (rather than just drill a hole they cut the firewall and made a tab and bent it down out of the way).

So, besides a picture of the correct heater, can anyone help me further identify the heater in the pic attached? I really like the design, and may keep it in the truck. I would like to know more about it.

Thanks in advance, Mike


TomO    -- 08-19-2013 @ 7:45 AM
  Ford used a manifold heater for all vehicles until 1939. You have an aftermarket hot water heater.

Tom


trixietruck    -- 08-19-2013 @ 8:47 PM
  Great, thanks for the info, do you (or anyone reading this) have any info on manifold heaters? Would this aftermarket heater be more effective ? I kind of like it. Do you have any pics of a manifold heater?

Trixie the truck will be revived!


TomO    -- 08-20-2013 @ 9:43 AM
  To see a drawing of a 1940 hot air heater, go to page 712 of the Green Book. It is similar to the one used in 1937. Here is a link to an online version of the Green Book.

http://www.norgv8club.org/norg/index.php/headliner-newsletters-and-tech-tips/category/11-parts-diagrams

The hot water heater provided more heat than the hot air heater, but the hot air heater provided heat sooner.

If you are going to restore the truck, you should make a decision on whether you want to show it on the Concourse or just drive it and show it at local shows. You can also show a driver at Early Ford V-8 Club meets in Touring Class. At most meets, Touring Class has just as many vehicles in it as the Concourse Class.

Tom


trjford8    -- 08-20-2013 @ 8:01 PM
  If you went to the hot air heater you would have to drill some fairly large holes in the firewall. If you are not looking to restore the truck to 100% original I would use the existing heater. Those old heaters have actually become fairly popular and have a lot of character.


Lawson Cox    -- 11-29-2013 @ 5:55 PM
  If you want something that is period, gives almost instant heat, install a Southwind gas heater. Simple to restore if you can locate the parts, or I know a guy who can restore it for you. Heat in 90 seconds so they say. Mine heats up faster than that. I rebuilt it using ALL NOS parts, everything that is except the outer cover. Just repainted that.


wmsteed    -- 12-10-2013 @ 8:15 AM
  The '39 Ford style of hot water heater works very well in any '30 model Ford..
It was a common practice during the early/mid 1940's to add hot water heaters in lieu of the troublesome manifold and Southwind heaters..
I believe it was in about 1941 that Ford, and many other manufactures started to install their heathers in the center of the firewall.. If it was a factory heater the application usually went well, not generally the case with after market heaters..
I have owned my '36 Ford coupe for over 61 years, it has always had a '39 Ford heater mounted on the right side of the firewall..
The '39 heaters are small, taking up very little space and they are Ford correct accessories....

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe


ford38v8    -- 12-10-2013 @ 7:19 PM
  Mike, the heater looks interesting, and would be a keeper if you confirm one small detail: Make sure that you can replace the heater core if this one goes away. The shape being unusual, you might have a problem with that. Restoring the firewall to match this heater's plumbing might be unwise for that reason.

Alan


Pickup    -- 04-16-2014 @ 5:47 PM
  Your heater looks like one that I saw on a Chevrolet restoration project. It had the round core and it was rebuilt by the owner. I would imagine that it was very difficult to replace.


supereal    -- 04-16-2014 @ 7:51 PM
  When I bought my '47 convertible, it had a Chevrolet truck heater, which I replaced with the correct three door type usually installed by the local Ford dealer. Neither heater produces heat comparable to today's "climate controls", which is one reason many of us put our cars in storage during the winter. Finding a "correct" heater can be tough. I found mine in a Missouri junkyard. Fortunately, the fan motor worked, but the core needed help, and the cover had to be repaired, rust bead blasted, and correct "hammertone" paint applied the result is more for looks than function.


trixietruck    -- 06-13-2014 @ 10:15 PM
  Sorry, hadn't logged on in a while. So, thanks for all the info first. We are going to stick with this heater. My nephew has restored the heater cover. Looks great. Will have a radiator guy check out the core. As for replacing the core, well, we will find out. We are not going for concourse. Just a really nice restoration with authentic parts where possible.

Trixie the truck will be revived!


wmsteed    -- 06-30-2014 @ 9:40 AM
  In my comments on 12/13, I made mention that the '39 Ford Hot water heater were used in many early Fords, to replace the undesirable manifold and/or gas heaters.
I have attached a pix of the '39 heater that is in my '36..

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe


TomO    -- 07-01-2014 @ 6:56 AM
  Trixietruck,

I am sure that you will get many favorable comments about the heater and its unusual cover and shape. I hope that you were able to find the manufacturer's name and model somewhere on the heater, so you can provide this information to admirers.

Tom


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